It was a 12 minute and seven second video posted Monday on Facebook that grabbed the attention of those across the spectrum of short track racing.
Nicole LaRose, a 20-year old woman deeply involved in the short track racing community in Connecticut, didn’t hold back in sharing her story of an incident of sexual harassment – arguably sexual assault – that took place on Feb. 13 in the pit area at New Smyrna Speedway in New Smyrna, Fla.
It’s not startlingly to find out what LaRose experienced is far from isolated in short track racing.
“It is sad that it’s still like this in some ways,” LaRose told RaceDayCT. “But I honestly do think we’re headed in the right direction.”
LaRose said in the days following the incident she received a multitude of messages from women across the country sharing their stories of sexual harassment in motorsports.
“It was very painful to watch [LaRose’s video] just because of the seriousness of the subject,” Stafford Speedway Limited Late Model driver Alexandra Fearn said. “… There’s nothing really we can do to make it better besides talk about it now, which is what we’re doing. That’s the best thing we can do. But it’s very frustrating. It was very upsetting and disturbing to watch. Just painful and very frustrating.”
What has been surprising is seeing public reaction by some to LaRose’s video went far in showing that there remains a culture built into the sport to condition the victim into believing they will be labeled as the problem for bringing attention to harassment.
“Hopefully some of the young girls coming up can make a change,” said former NASCAR Whelen Modifeid Tour driver Renee Dupuis. “Maybe Nicole coming forward will make a change or at least will bring the issue to the forefront. People will think about it.”
The 24-year old Fearn said the acceptance of sexual harassment is built into the culture of the sport.
“This happens a lot in our sport and I think that it’s really unfair,” Fearn said. “A lot of people just think it’s the boys club and it is what it is so you guys have to deal with it. That’s kind of like how I grew up thinking about it and justified it. As I’ve gotten older I’ve just gotten more sick of it, having my privacy violated multiple times.
“… It’s not acceptable anywhere, especially in short track racing. … Especially not acceptable in short track racing where everyone constantly is complaining that racing is dying and NASCAR is killing racing. Some people might disagree with me on this, but NASCAR is doing everything it can to be inclusive and be appealing to everyone so that we save our sport. But if you guys do [stuff] like this, it’s undesirable, unattractive, no one is going to support racing. Seeing the fact that this happens in racing in general, it’s not good. People, you claim to love the sport but then you turn around and do [stuff] like this. That makes nobody want to come to the race track. It blows my mind.”
DYING LAUGHING
LaRose, who is the daughter of longtime local racer Ernie LaRose, is a multimedia reporter at Stafford Speedway. In 2017 she began a sponsorship program through selling racing calendars she produced. Each year a driver is drawn at random to receive the sponsorship.
For the 2018 season LaRose was able to award a $2,500 sponsorship to then NASCAR Whelen Modified Tour regular Chase Dowling and a $1,000 sponsorship to Seekonk (Mass.) Speedway regular Ryan Flood through the calendar sales.
In 2019 LaRose upped the game by awarding a $5,000 sponsorship, which was won by Josh Hedges, who went on to win the Late Model championship at Star Speedway in Epping, N.H. For the 2020 season a $5,000 sponsorship was awarded to driver Bryan O’Shea who competes at Wall Stadium in Wall, N.J. Last month LaRose awarded the 2021 $5,000 sponsorship to Stafford Speedway SK Modified division driver Tony Membrino Jr.
In her video Monday LaRose described the incident that took place Saturday night in detail in the infield at New Smyrna Speedway. She named A.J. Jadacki, a racer who competes at Wall Stadium as the man who allegedly sexually harassed and assaulted her.
LaRose said she was on the infield at the track with a group affiliated with O’Shea’s team.
LaRose said the incident started with an intoxicated Jadacki approaching the group of men she was standing near. She said at some point the group behind her was laughing.
“I turned around and they were all looking at me, so obviously I was the joke or I was involved in the joke somehow,” LaRose said in the video.
Not long after that Jadacki approached LaRose and kissed her on the cheek without warning.
“At this point I was like ‘Ok dude, you’re going to need to step six feet away from me,” LaRose said in the video.
She said the group of men behind her were “dying laughing” as she made it clear to Jadacki that she wanted him to get away from her.
“He was behind me so I couldn’t see what was going on,” LaRose said on the video. “And he decided that he still did not get the rise he was looking for out of me. So he wound up and spanked me as hard as he could. So hard that 10 minutes later I could still feel his entire palm on my [rear end].”
LaRose said none of the men in the group near her stepped in or said anything to Jadacki.
“They’re just standing there doing this awkward laugh,” LaRose said on the video.
She said about five minutes later Jadacki came back to where she was.
“He comes back to apologize,” LaRose said on the video. “And he’s just getting closer and closer to me, and I’m screaming at him still to get away from me and the more I scream at him the closer he gets and he’s in my face and he’s trying to comfort me. So I ended up having to leave my own pit area.”
Jadacki did not respond to a request for an interview for this story.
Later Saturday night following the incident LaRose posted on Twitter that she had been sexually harassed on the infield at New Smyrna Speedway that night.
LaRose said after seeing the reaction to the short message on Twitter she decided to post the video to Facebook.
“I said tonight I was sexually harassed on the infield at the speedway and there were people watching it that encouraged it and we need to do better as a racing community. And the tweet went crazy. I wasn’t expecting that to happen. I ended up getting message from girls all over the country in racing and they kind of saw me as an outlet. … It was pretty overwhelming. … I was like, ‘Alright, I have these people’s attention, I might as well tell the whole story.’”
In the video LaRose said it wasn’t the first time she has been sexually harassed while at a race track.
LaRose said that after speaking to her father and boyfriend about what happened Saturday she decided the time had come to publicly share an incident of harassment.
“I feel like the times it’s happened before I’ve gone to family members and friends and I’ve just never gotten a very good response,” LaRose told RaceDayCT. “… I’ve gone to family members and they were like ‘It’s because you wore that dress’ or ‘It’s because you did this.’ Looking back that’s just completely wrong. But at the time I would just say ‘Whatever, I’ll just brush it off.’ This time I feel like the response from my boyfriend and my father was just that they would be behind me 100 percent and they felt like if I wanted to make a video it would be very inspiring. They felt like other girls would have the same things happen and be able to talk about it. I had more people in my corner this time telling me I had a platform and I should probably use it for good.”
Comments on the video on Facebook predominantly were supportive, but there were some who questioned her decision to use social media to share the incident.
“Deciding to make this whole video, I was taking on all of the overwhelming comments and shared backlash,” LaRose said. “I got backlash on Twitter. I got backlash on Facebook. I knew it was going to happen. I was prepared for it to happen. But I think it’s more worth it to say something. … It’s easier to just let it go and no one would have ever known about it besides the few people that saw it and everyone would have went about their way.
“The guy that harassed me, he’s already saying he has a different version of the story. … His wife got on [Facebook] and tried to tell me that I should have got an official or called the cops or whatever. Everyone wants to tell me what I should have done differently, but at the time I really didn’t think an official or a cop was going to do really anything. I think I handled the situation as best I could and especially bringing it to light on my social media. The guy had no idea who I was. He had no idea I had platform. So I’m sure he’s really kicking himself now.”
In the comments section on the video the culture of victim shaming was on display. The widow of former Modified racing great Richie Evans even went so far as to chastise LaRose for using Facebook to share her story.
“I’m sorry this happened to you!” Lynn Evans posted. “I’m not sure why you couldn’t handle this with the track? This public platform makes me troubled!!”
Later Evans commented again saying: “We have all experienced sexual harassment in our lives! You put big girl pants on and deal with it! I was a flight attendant and around racing longer than you’ve been alive! Oh but we didn’t have FB [Facebook]. I’m sorry she experienced this but she wasn’t the first and she won’t be the last!”
Said LaRose: “I completely expect people to victim shame. People are just like that.”
Fearn said no woman should be made to feel like she should just expect harassment at the track or be told she shouldn’t talk about it publicly after the fact.
“People who use that as a justification, I’m sorry but you really need to reevaluate what you stand for and if you really belong in this sport because that’s not what it’s about,” Fearn said. “… It’s not easy to just stand up to the person who is pursuing you. It’s not easy. It’s very difficult, even for people who are confident. … It’s not easy. Especially when it’s in a moment of complete panic. I think it’s pretty unfair to turn it back onto the victim and be like ‘Yeah, you should have done something different.’ … That’s not acceptable. People need to understand that. … That’s something that people seem to forget so easily or use to justify their own actions or the actions of their friends.
“If this person is treating one person like that it’s guaranteed that they treat other women like this,” Fearn said. “Sorry, that’s the hard truth. Some people are like ‘Oh well they can change. It was just an isolated incident’ and some people are justifying to Nicole with that. And it’s like, well, not really because Nicole was a complete stranger and this is just how this person treats women. It’s not an isolated thing.”
DON’T TOUCH ME
Fearn, who has competed in the Street Stock and Limited Late Model division at Stafford Speedway regularly since 2013 is the track’s all-time winningest female driver with 16 career victories.
Asked if she has experienced sexual harassment related to her participation in racing Fearn said: “Yes, and everyone should know that because for a lot of people … this is a truth that they don’t want to believe in. And this is something that causes people to look the other way because it’s very taboo. Some people think it’s political, some people think it’s just people trying to make the #MeToo movement about them or people trying to have “Pick Me” energy. If you don’t know what that is, Google it. But that’s not what it’s about. And anybody who has that attitude, I’m sorry but you’re part of the problem.”
Fearn said her first exposure to sexual harassment within racing came not at the track but through electronic messaging when she was 16 years old. The source of the harassment was a person who regularly hung around the pits at Stafford during events.
“This person messaged me, I did not know them,” Fearn said. “This person was another person my age, close to my age. But that doesn’t make it better. We were casually talking and I responded because I’m nice and they asked a question about my racing, so obviously I responded. Then things just turned sour really quick and that was the end of that. … It was very frustrating. I did not tell anybody about this except for my closest friend at the time and she said ‘Just block him.’ I did not tell anybody. I don’t even think my parents know that.”
Fearn said the prevalence of social media has made it that the harassment that was once centered within the track during events is now a regular part of the online messaging world.
“I have 400 plus friend requests from people I don’t know,” Fearn said. “I have message requests from people I do not know. Kind of like ‘Sliding into my DM’s’, which is basically the equivalent of ‘Hey, I think you’re hot, message me back.’ And I’m not a very public person. But my Facebook, my Instagram, my Twitter, my Snapchat, it’s all for my friends and family. It’s not for the world to see. And I think that’s the other half of this conversation.
“Women often have their privacy violated in motorsports. I’m sorry but it’s not your right to be friends with me on Facebook. It’s not your right to be friends with me on Instagram. I’m sorry, stop requesting me, don’t send me messages, don’t talk about me behind my back, like what the [expletive]? That gets me really annoyed.
“And as far as in person goes, physically violating my space. It has happened. It’s nothing like what Nicole experienced, and I’m not trying to downplay anybody else’s experiences.”
At Stafford Speedway, where Fearn has competed regularly in the Street Stock and Limited Late Model division since 2013, pit parties are a calling card of the Spring Sizzler and Fall Final weekends. During pit parties all the teams competing roll their cars out on the track before the event and fans are the allowed to walk around the track and meet the drivers with their cars.
Fearn said she is not a fan of the pit party events because of the awkward situation of men wanting to hug her and touch her in that setting.
“I try to tell myself deep down that it’s an innocent-like gesture I guess,” Fearn said, “I don’t know. Maybe it’s me trying to justify it, but I shouldn’t have to. … But don’t [expletive] touch me. … I’m sorry. Maybe that’s just me. I don’t know you. To be quite honest, and I’m not trying to sound like a bitch. I really hope that anybody that reads this or listens to this needs to understand that. … I need you to not touch me.
“… Like, don’t touch me. I would never touch a stranger. It’s just weird. So I don’t know why people justify that in their mind. I get it that most of the time it’s probably innocent, but I shouldn’t have to justify that in my head. It should just be unspoken that you don’t touch people that don’t want to be touched. It’s not that complicated, but some people still struggle with that.”
PART OF THE DEAL
The 48-year old Dupuis said she experience incidents of sexual harassment consistently from when she first started racing full-size cars at 16 until her last racing endeavors in 2017.
“I would not say it was anything beyond harassment,” Dupuis said. “There was never any assault. … Some of what I experienced was from some of the biggest names in Modified racing. And I knew not to take that on. Like there was no way to win that.
She said her feeling in early days of racing was that it was best to just absorb the harassment and not make a public spectacle of anything she was confronted with.
“All I wanted to do was get better to be competitive and whatever it took to do that. And if keeping my mouth shut and just dealing with some of the bullshit – because that’s really all it is, it’s just bullshit – you just deal with it. There was nobody before me in Modified racing. Who was I going to lean on? Who was I going to talk to? Who was going to be my advocate? Ok so somebody said something mean to you, “Ok well, buck up buttercup.’ Unfortunately I chose to be involved in a male dominated sport.
“I don’t think that anything was going to change and I think that was my perspective back then. Like, what is me coming forward, me saying anything, what is that going to change? It’s just going to piss this guy off even more. It’s just going to make things worse. So what is me coming forward going to change? The answer was nothing. I just felt like, if this is what you want to be involved in this was just part of the deal. It was part of the sport.
“… I guess in a way I didn’t have the courage that [LaRose] has. … To me, nothing was going to change.”
Dupuis said one of the hardest parts of the harassment she endured was sharing her experiences with her family, especially her father who was a former competitor and a big fan of Modified racing.
“I think it was harder on the people around me and the disappointment that I would share with my family, my team members and my crew guys,” Dupuis said. “People who really believed in what I was doing. And then to hear some of the bullshit that went on was just like, ‘Really? Him? Really? That happened?’ I think seeing the disappointment of others around me that I cared for went through was almost worse than it was for me. It’s always worse to watch somebody you care about go through something.
“Some of these people were my father’s heros. Then to hear some of the stuff that came out of their mouths, it was just like ‘Yeah, sorry Dad, your hero is an asshole.’”
CHANGE NEEDED
LaRose said she has received positive support from race track operators since posting her video Monday.
“[News Smyrna Speedway] already reached out to me,” LaRose said, “I had three other speedway operators acknowledge my video or my tweet. That’s obviously good that they’re seeing and listening to what’s going on.”
Fearn believes race tracks need to take have open lines of communication with victims of sexual harassment at the track and take drastic measures of punishment.
“I personally think that some race tracks should really consider actually enforcing a life ban to some people because some people [expletive] deserve it,” Fearn said. “No offense, but race tracks, you guys need to step it up. This is your facility, that’s where it happened. … The majority of things that we’re talking about often start at the race track. If they don’t happen there they definitely start there because how else would you know I exist aside from that place. Sorry race tracks, but I’m calling on you. You need to actually enforce a lifetime ban on some people. That would also require people who are experiencing this reporting. But that kind of feeds into my next point that you need to give people a forum to talk about this. My home track, Stafford [Speedway], they’re pretty good. There’s people that I can reach out to about anything any problem I have, including this one. That’s good to know that that exists.”
Asked if she thinks the culture of acceptance of sexual harassment within motorsports can change soon Dupuis said: “Honestly, no.”
“Are there more women? Yes” Dupuis said. “Are there more women being successful? Yes. I watched the Daytona 500, I watched some of the coverage [last] week. Is there a big push for diversity? Yeah. But is there an effort behind it or are we trying to jump on a bandwagon here and make it look good? I can’t say.
“It’s a foolish to think that’s going to change. … Just by the nature of the sport, it’s automotive work. It’s going to be a male dominated profession and industry, it’s going to continue to be male dominated. It’s kind of a macho thing too. It’s not like it’s a male dominated field where we’re sitting behind desks. I’m not trying to justify it in any way, shape or form.”
Fearn hopes what LaRose exposed will open eyes to enact change.
“Hopefully just one person can have some perspective because a lot of people don’t have any perspective of this topic,” Fearn said. “I don’t want to say ignorant, but maybe like blissfully ignorant about this. A lot of people don’t realize this happens either because they’re naïve or thankfully they’re lucky enough that this has not happened to a woman in their life. Hopefully this helps people understand better.”
To hear extended versions of interviews with Nicole LaRose, Renee Dupuis and Alexandra Fearn listen to Unmuffled Episode 88.
Thank you Nicole, Renee, and Alexandra for sharing your stories. Hopefully bringing them to light will help to expose the caveman mindset of some in the racing community.
What about all the ads on the site here then? I see at least 4 on this page as I’m typing this…. women over 55 …. unbelievable women golfer pics..take this little blue pill … I could go on and on but this sore has lots to look on with itself
Pot Calling The Kettle Black,
You mean the AdSense ads you’re seeing when you look at the story? The ads that are curated by Google for each individual reader based on the recent search habits of that reader?
So AJ has a wife… well, well, well. 😳
Since the legal justice system does not work well in these cases, the people have to deal out corrective action.
We have technology on our side. Record and expose these incidences. EXPOSURE will be undeniable. And get them banned from all tracks. Notify the sanctioning bodies and do not issue a license. This is just as serious as drugs and alcohol. And definitely let their spouses know.
If racing wants to clean up, this would be a start.
Much of the pushback has been the the exposure. That is so sad. If you see something, say something. I was raised to see nothing, say nothing, hear nothing… never say anything. As some of you can imagine, I didn’t go along with that at all. When we were kids, we were taught to not be a tattle tale. That made no sense to me. If somebody was doing something bad, the parents or adults needed to know.
It’s the classic “newspaper test”. Behave as if whatever you do can endup in the news 🗞 📰.
Silence is consent.
If you’re not an Unmuffled subscriber you’re going to want to hear this episode even if you chose not to support RaceDayCt on an ongoing basis financially.
This should be a listening and learning moment for the males at all levels in local racing from competitors to fans. The three participants couldn’t have been more different in their perspectives while each providing insights that will be valuable to the fan base going forward.
Just asking to ask. Where did this guys last name come from? Nicole stated it was some random stranger that went by AJ. Now we have attached a last name to the story and said she identified him. No last names were provided in the video so I’m curious. Did someone give him up? I just hope we have identified the correct guilty party. More than likely it’s correct. I realize that. Stranger things have happened though.
JD,
He was tagged in the Facebook post.
Doug, you haven’t referred to women as “chicks” lately. Any reason for that?
🌈JD🌈 wrote, “Where did this guys last name come from? Nicole stated it was some random stranger that went by AJ.”
Immediately after she said “some guy wanders up”, this “AJ” guy, she said she identified him after the situation.
Go and LISTEN to what she said.
Got my questions answered on the involvement of law enforcement. Ms LaRose said there was plenty of security around but it was a personal decision not to get them involved. She did not say or imply it was the right decision for anyone else simply the way she choses to handle these situations seeing as how the racing community is so small.
I noted all the posts here and on social media from guys saying that it was other guys that should step in to somehow defuse of remedy the situation. I thought that kind of thinking was backward and paternalistic. Nicole did mention however if the modified guys were around they would have stepped in so that was informative.
Renee Dupuis not unlike Willie T Ribbs. Infinitely quotable, unequivocal, blunt, smart and realistic. The Stafford Bottom Shot podcast really needs to get Ms Dupuis on the record for the sake of local racing history.
If you follow Stafford racing you should know the Alexandra Fearn has a really big bubble around her. She had a chance to vent her frustrations with not only the issue at hand but the involvement with fans in general. All that pent up stuff came out in this one interview.. Not unexpected but an eye opener none the less. Suffice it to say that as the pandemic subsides respectful fans are going to need to continue to give Ms Fearn a lot space.
🌈JD🌈 writes, “Just asking to ask.” Thanks for making that clear. What he said ≠ what he meant.
And trying to raise doubt by casting aspersions, insinuation and innuendo.
But 🌈JD🌈 apparently missed the spot in the video where Nicole mentions AJ and where Nicole said she later ID’d the perp. Right there in the video.
So 🌈JD🌈, your smoke and mirrors trickery, or lack of comprehension, or just plain sloppiness, gets you in the end again.
Doug, let me just steer you and other readers in the right direction and start off by saying that I love meeting my fans. It is amazing to get to know them and hear about their passion for the sport that we all share. However, the entire frustration that myself and many other woman in the sport share, drivers and team members alike, is that no one, and I mean absolutely no one, should be touching us without our permission. It has nothing to do with my “frustration with fans” and the fact that I need “space”, but has everything to do with my frustration towards the bad apples in our sport overlooking boundaries and having no respect.
I hope that you and others can view this as a respectful response. I am not trying to sound entitled or better than my peers. I only want to stand up for what is right and provide a perspective with as much honesty and candidness as possible. Thank you for understanding.
SC answered my question and no I am not trying to create any doubt. I 100% believe the story as stated.
My only point was this creeps last name was not spoken in the video.(and it wasn’t) I was curious where it came from and how he was identified. Don’t be a dink your whole life DaReal. I have a job and contribute to society. I don’t have all day to surf social media sites. It was a simple question. Asked and Answered.
I’ve mention this before but tracks should have cameras in common areas to deter theft, fighting and harassment. No, it won’t catch or stop everything but it might catch some stuff. Especially after the week racing just had in Florida.
🌈JD🌈 replied, “My only point was this creeps last name was not spoken in the video.(and it wasn’t) I was curious where it came from and how he was identified.”
Nope, that’s not what you said in the earlier post.
Walls closing in on you?
Hey Doug, I got a couple extra lug nuts clanking around in an old coffee can, you need ’em?
Thank you for the response Ms Fearn.
I can’t help but think of some of the things I’ve said at 24. So young, so assured. I knew everything in those days. I hope 43 year old Alexandra has an opportunity to revisit and reflect on what 24 year old Alexandra said yesterday and critique her own interview.
I’m hoping large numbers of folks can hear the interview and take from it what they will. I found the frankness refreshing, the profanity laced exclamation points a bit shocking yet impactful and the youthful attempts to dictate the boundaries of perception for the driver of the 12 LLM car youthfully naive.
Glad you had a chance to straighten me and all fans out on your interest in connecting with fans. That was not readily apparent in the interview.
All drivers have the right to set their own rules on how they interact with fans. You can say there is an obligation to connect with them to further the sport but unless they’re a sponsor that’s mostly poppycock. Some drivers like Reen may sit down and talk your ear off if you ask him a question. Rocco has been trashed in these pages for being arrogant and aloof fairly or not. Most are somewhere in between.
There is only one point made in the Fearn portion of the interview I would take issue with. That is the curiosity of why the authorities were not sought out and why not. I don’t agree that it’s none of our business because we weren’t there. We aren’t talking about verbal harassment or unwelcome touching sexually motived or completely benign. We’re talking about physical pain. Knowing the logic behind the reason why authorities weren’t sought out and why was instructive. Not so much for we geezers but for other women that may be faced with a similar circumstance. Thank you to Mr. Courchesne for asking and Nicole for the frank response.
Now that this has been brought to the surface, I think it falls upon the race track to make sure that the competitors, and fans are in a safe environment. But, that’s not all that needs to happen, people need to speak up, immediately if something happens to them, so that the offender is dealt with swiftly. Everyone needs to step up, and wipe out this disgusting behavior that tarnishes our sport. It’s a moral obligation by everyone to ensure that the racetrack is a safe place for everyone. At Stafford the driver is responsible for their crews behavior, so drivers, speak to your crews, let them know this behavior won’t be tolerated, maybe they’ll listen. The time for change is NOW!
Well you can educate and hope these old guys learn but like Renee said nothing will probably change. Since we’re in the middle of the cancel culture maybe just get rid of things like the pit parties. And what about alcohol? If alcohol wasn’t involved down in New Smyrna, that incident might not have happened.
Doug’s voice has gone up 2 or 3 octaves.
🌈🦄2020, why get rid of the pit parties? Because of a few rotten apples? Get rid of the troglodytes.
Get rid of alcohol? For most people, there wouldn’t be a reason n to go to the track. Where’s Liz???
Why ruin the event for everyone else because of a few deviants?
C’mon, track food and beer can be fun. I go for wings once in a while, Thompson clam strips are a tradition. And sometimes I do bring my own cooler.
Go after the bad apples. 🍎 🍏
I read the story and it really makes me sick that no one beat the sh_t out of this guy. The same track that an official was fatally stricken earlier in the week after a physical altercation. The sexual harassment and assault really got me thinking about antics from the past that I’d heard about a few years ago. One from the actual perp. He thought it was fine, actually bragged about it. A true predator, but a well-known hero. And another ‘hero’ who was also a predator. Although I never witnessed the latter, it was told to me by a very well respected car builder. You have to call these people on this atrocious behavior. They cannot be allowed to get away with it. Never assume that the guy you admire isn’t really a closet abuser. And we have to make it stop at any cost. These women who spoke up are brave and for real.
If anyone has ever camped at their local track, world series etc, you have probably seen some very cringe worthy things. Some things involving well know drivers even. I bet if everyone got outed that harassed a girl, the racing community would be turned upside down.
Been there 2020, totally agree with you. It doesn’t make it right though.