NASCAR Bans Confederate Flag From Events

The Confederate Flag flies during an event at Darlington Speedway in Darlington, S.C. (Photo: Streeter Lecka/Getty Images)

The Confederate flag, long a staple symbol seen at NASCAR events, has been banned from events by the sanctioning body. 

NASCAR announced Wednesday they will no longer allow Confederate flags to be displayed at their events. 

It was a newly introduced policy that quickly enraged a substantial portion of NASCAR’s fan base. Social media ignited with fury from many Wednesday upon announcement of the new rule. Some view the flag as a point of Southern pride and NASCAR heritage, while other’s see it as a symbol of racial division and hate.

A statement Wednesday from NASCAR read: 

“The presence of the confederate flag at NASCAR events runs contrary to our commitment to providing a welcoming and inclusive environment for all fans, our competitors and our industry. Bringing people together around a love for racing and the community that it creates is what makes our fans and sport special. The display of the confederate flag will be prohibited from all NASCAR events and properties.”

Earlier this week driver Bubba Wallace, the only black driver who competes regularly in the NASCAR Cup Series, told CNN it was time to “get rid of all Confederate flags.” 

“No one should feel uncomfortable when they come to a NASCAR race. So it starts with Confederate flags. Get them out of here. They have no place for them,” Wallace said. 

The comments from Wallace came following Sunday’s Cup Series event at Atlanta Motor Speedway where NASCAR addressed racial tensions across the United States in the wake of countrywide protests and riots in response to the murder of George Floyd by a Minneapolis police officer. 

Before the race began at Atlanta the field was stopped on the track and NASCAR president Steve Phelps addressed drivers and TV viewers saying: “Our country is in pain and people are justifiably angry, demanding to be heard. The black community and all people of color have suffered in our country and it has taken far too long for us to hear their demands for change. Our sport must do better. Our country must do better.”

Cup Series drivers also produced a short video addressing racial inequality which was broadcast Sunday.

In 2015 NASCAR had requested that fans to stop displaying the Confederate flag at events. 

Comments

  1. 🍿 🍿 🍿 🍿 🍿

  2. A well received announcement today.

    Anyone still think Kyle Larson will be back anytime soon??

  3. The Confederate Flag represents a very dark time in our country. A time when brothers fought brothers.A time of division. I’m glad NASCAR has done this. A race track is a place where you should feel safe.

  4. Anarchy 2020 says

    I could care less either way. It’s not going to attract any new fans. And who knows if it’ll create the loss of fans. It will be interesting how it’s handled at local tracks. Last time I seen that flag was at Thompson last year.

  5. Can’t wait for the Constitutional Internet Scholars to weigh in. And the graduates from Trump University.

    And you guys couldn’t stomach discussing COVID-19 related issues. Now this???? 😝😝😝😝

    This is gonna be great!!!! 👍 NASCAR is waving the white flag. SURRENDER!!!!! The South loses again.

    The Civil War was some 165 years ago, and white people still don’t get it.

    “There is separation of colored people from white people in the United States. That separation is not a disease of colored people. It is a disease of white people. I do not intend to be quiet about it.” – Albert Einstein

    “The presence of the confederate flag at NASCAR events runs contrary to our commitment to providing a welcoming and inclusive environment for all fans, our competitors and our industry. Bringing people together around a love for racing and the community that it creates is what makes our fans and sport special. The display of the confederate flag will be prohibited from all NASCAR events and properties.”

    Why now? It’s been decades. What changed all of a sudden?

    I bet President Trump never expected to have this kind of impact on racism. 😝😝😝

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  6. I applaud this decision. When I tell people I’m a NASCAR fan, or just a fan of short track racing in general people don’t believe me. Why? I don’t fit the stereotype; I have a full set of teeth and I’m college educated. It’s nice to see the top level of stock car racing move into this century. Those that are upset and want to leave the sport? Go ahead, I don’t want you associated with the sport I love anyway.

  7. This was so big nationally I was hoping RaceDayCt would take a pass on this particular press release. Predictably it exploded on social media and painted a rather ugly image of the racing community complete with a confederate flag. I’m not saying it shouldn’t have been said only I wish for whatever reason it hadn’t.
    I did look at the map and we are still in the Northeast. Many of our ancestors were wounded, imprisoned and died fighting armies carrying that flag. Many are buried in our cemetery’s and their names on town green memorials. Forgetting that, the stars and bars that is the second confederate flag adopted in 1863 represents something far more sinister then a generic reference to hate implies. The right of individual States to continue an economic system that depended on abducting, transporting in brutal conditions and enslavement of human beings for their and their offspring’s natural lives ………forever. I suppose many think of the proud people that fought under the stars and bars nobly as perpetual underdogs and simply fighting to preserve their way of life. Unfortunately their right to freedom depended on the enslavement of human beings.
    We have a flag as well. It represents centuries of turmoil, growth, prosperity, poverty, ill conceived wars and a few dirty deeds. However it also was the flag that did free the slaves, fought to beat back a German invasion in WWI, freed countries and people all around the world in WWII, fought a successful cold war against an oppressive USSR and freed Kuwait from Iraq. It’s the flag of a people that may not have always done the right thing but never sought to purposely oppress, subjugate or enslave any group of people.
    I understand why southerners would defend the confederate flag remembering the bravery in battle against long odds and conveniently forgetting the enslavement of human beings. What is really confusing is how so many people in the Northeast and especially race fans defend the confederate flag with such passion.

  8. knuckles Mahoney says

    Why now Dareal. I will tell you. The video of a dirt bag cop kneeling on the neck of a handcuffed grown man as he cries for his mom. That video was so disturbing to watch. That POS cop will single handedly go down as person who got police reform. The question will be, is he a racist POS, or just a bully cop who acted like a tough guy to everyone. Trying to look like a bad ass in front of his rookie cops. He already had four brutality complaints against him, so I blame the police unions as equally culpable. They defend dirt bag cops forever under the disguise of they have tough jobs, make split second decisions, blah, blah, blah. IMO, you get one complaint of excessive force and you are on probation the rest of your career. 2nd complaint you’re done. In my town, we already have two paid out complaints of excessive force on one cop, yet he’s still on the job. How the hell is that possible?

  9. George Floyd’s daughter said ” my daddy’s gonna change the world” I believe that to be true. People are protesting racism all over the world. The Confederate flag was the flag of racist traitors, and it’s about time people came to realize that. I’m glad NASCAR banned that flag from events. It’s 2020 WAKE UP.
    Racism in any form has no place in society. Our people deserve better, and it’s a real shame that someone had to die to get the ball rolling.
    Now Trump has planned a rally in Tulsa OK, on juneteenth. Tell me he’s not the racist dictator he appears to be.
    RIP George Floyd, hopefully your death was not in vein.

  10. Anarchy 2020 says

    Well here’s the beginning of a list of everything being cancelled. “Cops”, Live PD, Gone with the wind. Paw Patrol was a rumor thank God. Some want every show on TV about police banned. Statues and memorials are being toppled or defaced and not all are warranted. Mt. Rushmore will likely be next. Lady Antebellum have changed their names to Lady A. Wonder what the A stands for. Dixie Chicks properly next. And on an on.

  11. Anarchy 2020,
    Apparently the band Confederate Railroad has already been facing some issues over the past few years.

  12. Anarchy 2020 says

    Never heard of them Shawn. But I’m sure there will be bands and unknown people making the news more often. Ray Ciccarelli as an example.

  13. daddydave says

    Last time I checked this was the land of the free,freedom of religion,speech,bare arms,the press,etc I also can’t believe some of you are memorializing a convict. I agree what happened to Mr Floyd was a disgrace and sad as it may be he also had a arrest sheet as long as the declaration of independence. Many arrests armed robbery, kidnapping, writing bad checks etc and this country is going crazy because of what happened. I saw someone on here posted “we should be able to go to races and feel safe” well the flag has been flying at races forever and just wondering when was the last time you heard of something happening at a race?? I have never heard of a shooting, beating etc at any races both grassroots and Nascar and I’ve been to Talladega and Dover and Darlington and Bristol please explain that quote?? What does a flag have to do with safety? Just one last thing I saw a post on FB about everything going on and black lives matter and there was no comments and it was a black man asking “when do black lives matter?’ he was asking black people because he stated they marched and caused all this country divide but he asked how come they don’t march in their own neighborhoods against the black men killing black men? Everyday in Chicago in the projects their killing each other why don’t they stand against their own race and violence?? Would they be considered racist for that?? thanks for allowing this forum but hopefully we race soon..

  14. knuckles posted, “Why now Dareal. I will tell you.”

    Oh, do tell me. knuckles, ever hear of Rodney King? You probably weren’t even born when that happened.

    How about Amadou Diallo. Look up Abner Louima.

    Here’s a very disgusting consequence of the Rodney King case. The police claimed that any recording of their police activity was illegal because it posed a security and safety risk to the officers. It took many years of court battles, and people being wrongly accused and charged by the police for recording police, before the Supreme Court determined that it is perfectly fine to record police in action. So if a LEO should ever tell you to stop recording, make sure you record that, and keep recording. Rodney King was brutally beaten by LA police on March 3, 1991. Almost 30 years ago. And the list of other people that wrongly perished at the hands or bullets of police is long.

    Police would arrest and charge those recording police, and make their live miserable.

    So why now? Why the outrage?

    Well, thank Steve Jobs. Since the proliferation of smartphones, all those billions of cameras out there have been recording police malfeasance. It’s no longer the word of the LEO vs the victim. The LEO almost always won. Now, the tables are turning. The cameras are rolling.

    There was a study a few years ago that concluded that complaints against police were down a HUGE amount, and it was attributed to all the cameras out there. The police can’t hide or abuse their authority, privilege, or blue wall any more. The liability costs to municipalities and taxpayers has been dramatically reduced because of the ability of the public to oversee the police with all those cameras.

    Interestingly, just about a year ago, a LEO pulled over a guy for suspicious reasons. The guy happened to be a lawyer. Hey started recoding the incident right from the beginning. The LEO kept telling him to stop recording blah-blah-blah. That cop was dismissed for attempting to suppress the guy from recording the incident.

    knuckles, that cop that killed Floyd, knew Floyd. They worked together for security at a night club.

  15. Daddy Dave, you just don’t get it do you? It’s ok, your a racist, probably a trait instilled in you. It be nice if you could please give out the link where you saw Floyd’s arrest record. Oh, wait, you can’t. George Floyd might not have been a “model” citizen, but from everything I’ve been able to find he was far from a criminal. The whole incident started over a 20 dollar bill, yet no bill has been seen. There was absolutely no reason for him to have been handled the way he was. That Cop is a murderer. Case closed. Do you really think people all over the world would protest for a criminal? And by the way, most of the protesters were white. Do you know why? Because the color of your skin should not dictate how you are treated, anywhere in the world.
    Change will come regardless of what you racists do, it’s inevitable. And someday, people like you will be the ones in fear.

  16. Wonder how many racist neanderthals try to sue NASCAR for their rights to fly that flag.

  17. knuckles Mahoney says

    Here we go again, Dareal making assertions that are not based in fact at all. For the record I was already practicing medicine when the Rodney King incident happened. So that will give you an idea of my age. It’s funny though. You take singular incidents as a basis for systemic racism. Let’s just say its true. What has the democratic party done for all minorities in the US in the last 50 years except pander their vote every 4 years, and then forget about them? What have they actually done for the homeless except exploit them for political gain. As daddydave points out, they say, we should be able to go to a race and feel safe. Ever wonder why they say that? I know you’re too dumb to figure it out. It’s because deomcrats love to use buzz words that no one will argue against. Like safety, and we must do it for the children. We all want to be safe, and we all want what’s best for children, but the democrats have expertly exploited these words because no one can argue against safety. So before you make stupid assertions, again, about how old someone might be, or where they come from, just think about how dumb you are, and how stupid you look when you have no factual basis for your drivel.

  18. Okay knuckles, still don’t believe you. You have never detailed your exact role as a licensed medical practitioner, and you have been asked numerous times. So that only leads to one conclusion: you are full of 💩. Many positions in health care need to be licensed. You aren’t impressing me at all.

    Are you denying there is systemic racism? No way did I infer in any way that a singular incident was causal for systemic racism. Just brought up some examples. You brought up the aspect of the police unions defending bad cops. That is explicitly systemic, and that is what I addressed.

  19. How soon we all forget;

    When I think of the New York Police Department, I think of some of the finest police officers in the world.
    The NYPD is filled with heroes.
    And these hero NYPD officers responded heroically to the events of 911.
    Sadly, we lost 72 officers on 911.
    72 police angels who are now in Heaven.
    These angels swore to protect and serve, and that is what they were doing when they passed away on 911.
    They are the best.
    God bless them all.
    And God bless their families.

    A day where all lives mattered regardless of race, or religion. Does one bad cop mean all cops are bad?How soon we all forget.

  20. Daddydave says

    First off Rob P I’m far from racist considering I come from a mixed black and white family moron and evidently you didn’t read my post I AGREE what happened to him was uncalled for 1998 did 10 months armed robbery 2002 did 8 months cocaine 2004 10 months cocaine 2005 10 months cocaine 2007 5 years armed robbery of a pregnant woman in her home and when he was killed was high in meth FAR FROM model citizen it’s public record just look it up. Yes all those police should go to jail and I will never be in fear avid gun owner and do exercise my right and it wasn’t over a $20 bill they said he wrote a bad check but either way he shouldn’t have been killed. Oh another fact you might like 4 family members are police from chiefs down to patrol officers not that it matters but I guess everyone knows everything. And again I don’t care if white black green red purple people are marching why don’t they march in the projects of Chicago and other states where blacks are murdered everyday?? If black lives matter THEY SHOULD MATTER ALL THE TIME.. anyway I’m comfortable knowing where I come from and the people who we surround ourselves with have a nice day.. we can all have opinions but love the way you just come off talking crap about me without knowing me or asking this is what’s wrong with people you don’t even know if I’m black or white and call me a racist but I’m the one who will be in fear my family doesn’t see color we love people for who they are and if you should

  21. I just hope all those that are saying they are done with NASCAR because of this really mean it. Not like Doug that always promises to leave, but then comes back.

    Trump is boasting like he suppressed an attempted overthrow of the government. While he was hiding in the bunker.

    NASCAR was put in a tough spot by Bubba Wallace. He called for the banning of NASCAR’s de facto symbol right when there were several other racial related things going on. Colin Kaepernik, George Floyd, Ahmaud Arbery, etc. If NASCAR did not ban the Confederate flag, they would have made themselves look far worse.

    Those Confederate flag waving troglodytes are the NASCAR base. Can NASCAR afford to piss them off?

    I never understood why the Confederate flag was the de facto symbol of NASCAR racing. Anybody know how that came to be? For real.

  22. Racism is not Democrat, nor Republican, it’s a human thing. Unfortunately politics always gets in the way. This time things seem to be different. The younger generations are speaking out. Black, white, Asian Hispanic and native American. And this is worldwide. Change is coming, wether you like it or not. The only question, will you embrace change and make it happen? Or will you defy change, and be left behind.

  23. “Seeing the forces use teargas on protests was a beautiful thing” This is what Donald Trump said today in Dallas TX referring to the forces that used teargas to clear out peaceful protesters from Laffeyette park for his now infamous photo op. Very Presidential.

  24. Earl, the good deeds of a few cops does not forgive the malfeasance of just one bad cop. The good cops are good cops. The bad cops are bad cops. Bad cops have to be exposed and eliminated. Who is supposed to do that? Since the police must police themselves, bad deeds by bad cops makes all of them look bad. If they can’t or are not going to police themselves, then the people have to do whatever they need to in order to protect themselves from the police. You never know when you are going to cross paths with a bad cop.

  25. Even if George Floyd did all those things, he did his time and sentences. The cop was not to act as judge jury and executioner, regardless of previous record. Floyd’s previous record had nothing to do with the alleged phony $20 bill and his take down.

    And the cop that did the killing knew Floyd. They worked together. They knew each other. When you watch that video, don’t you think the cop would have been far more reasonable if he knew the guy, as in try to talk to him? After all, Flowd was cuffed and had two other cops holding him down.

    But anyways, glad to see the Confederate Flag has been banned by NASCAR.

  26. What a difference a day makes!!!!!

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    NASCAR getting all woke and stuff.

    I can’t wait for football to start. There is going be so much kneeling.

    It really has been a stunning collection of recent events.

    Winning!!!!

    😝😝😝😝😝😝😝

  27. Daddy Dave, sorry, the way that post was worded made you seem racist.
    Earl, agree with you. Not all cops are bad. In fact I believe 99.5% of all cops are good people who believe in the oath they took. It’s the bad cops, corrupt prosecutors and racist judges we need to get rid of.
    I say don’t defund the police. Defunding them will make the situation worse. The police need more funding to be used for better training, and to create better oversight. We need to break the “silent blue line”. We need to establish ways where if a cop sees something, they can safely say something without repercussions. Prosecutors need better oversight to make sure innocent people don’t end up in jail, and that guilty people can’t buy their way out of jail. We need to look at sentencing guidelines so that the time matches the crime. We need to look at prison reform so people who go to prison have a chance at succeeding once released from prison. And the list goes on.
    We also need social reform. Bank oversight, to make sure your loan application isn’t determined by the color of your skin. Among other things.
    Again Daddy Dave, I apologise for jumping to conclusions.
    Everyone stay safe, strong and sane. Regardless of what Trump would have you believe it’s safe as can be. In fact it’s not. Keep social distancing, wear a mask, wash your hands, sanitize everything and stay home when possible. Your sacrifices now will be rewarded later.
    Remember “Ape alone…weak. Apes together…strong” together we can defeat Covid, together we will eradicate racism, but we must stick together.

  28. Still would like to know where to view George Floyd’s official criminal record. I’ve spent some time trying to find it and can’t.

  29. Donald Trump, in a tweet, threatened to send troops to Seattle to take back the streets.
    The mayor of Seattle responded by tweeting: make us all safe, go back to your bunker. You go girl.

  30. “What has the democratic party done for all minorities in the US in the last 50 years except pander their vote every 4 years, and then forget about them? ”

    That’s a talk media trope I hear all the time. Overwhelmingly from white, male on air far right media personalities. It smacks a bit of a plantation mentality insofar as any party has to do anything for any racial group. What a party should be accountable for is to give all racial and ethnic groups a voice in the system. Once they have the voice they are responsible for the results themselves.

    The Current Tail of the Tape

    *Currently the Democratic Party is over 19% black and 12% Latino. The Republican Party is about 2% black and 6% Latino.
    *The US House of Representatives has 56 black Representatives and 43 Latino. None are Republican. Tim Scott, Senator from South Carolina is the only black or Latino Republican in Congress.

    It’s misleading to suggest any party has to do anything for any minority other then to give them a access to the decision making process. The numbers suggest they will not get that access, at least at this point in time from the Republican Party.

  31. Daddydave says

    Rob P. It’s all good everyone’s tensions are high and we are all speaking out which is one of our rights like I said if we speak correctly maybe racism won’t be as bad maybe gone instead of saying black or white man just say A MAN got arrested or hurt etc. regardless of this whole flag thing it is what it is let’s move on more important things in our lives especially our own to worry about everyone take care and Shawn thanks for this discussion board god bless

  32. How many times has a cop turned in a bad cop?

    There is far more police brutality going on that never gets recorded, and therefore it is all based on the word of the LEO.

    When the blue line (union) is used to protect bad cops, it makes all cops bad cops and systematically discredits an entire police department.

    How many cops have broken with the blue code and spoke out against the illegal, unprofessional conduct, and corruption within the police force? And that’s another issue, the police should not be referred to as a “force”.

    So glad NASCAR is all woke now.

    Tucker Carlson is losing sponsors in droves after his deplorable tirades.

    What year is this?

  33. I agree that the bad cops absolutely need to go however, I disagree that one bad cop makes all good cops look bad. That’s like saying you have 3 children and one screws up so now that makes the other two look bad? And you are supposed to punish the other two because the one screwed up? Not in my world. I punish the one so the other two learn what not to do.

  34. I think most reasonable people know that not all cops are bad, and truly believe most are good.

    All occupations include some who are incompetent, and a few who are downright bad actors. However, in occupations that put the general public’s lives on the line, like doctors, airline pilots, and of course, police, it’s up to the good to call out and drive out the bad. To me, the presence of three other officers in Minneapolis and the murderer’s disciplinary record shows that was not happening.

    An accused man was denied his fifth and fourteenth amendment rights, and killed by someone who should have been long gone from the job. Remember, we have a court system. An arrest means someone is accused, it does not mean guilty in itself, ever…

  35. Earl posted, “I agree that the bad cops absolutely need to go however, I disagree that one bad cop makes all good cops look bad. That’s like saying you have 3 children and one screws up so now that makes the other two look bad? And you are supposed to punish the other two because the one screwed up? Not in my world. I punish the one so the other two learn what not to do.”

    That is a profoundly stupid post and false equivalence. The police are all adults, are supposedly well trained, and have a union to live up to and protect them. They behave like a close knit tribe. The protection of one another in the tribe comes first above all else. When the tribe protects their deviant members, they are aiding and abetting that deviant behavior, transgressions, law breaking, etc. Refusing to report deviant tribe members is aiding and abetting.

    Hey Earl, read the report about the pair of cops that picked up a girl, repeatedly raped her in a police van, while on duty, then said it was okay because they said it was consensual? They were on duty. Is doing something like that really allowable on duty? DNA proved they did it. If the cops said it was consensual, why bother with DNA evidence?

  36. Anarchy 2020 says

    Like I thought, lady on CNN says all Washington and Jefferson statues should be torn down with the rest of them. Renaming D.C. will probably next. One thing leads to another and right the the ball is rolling.

  37. There you go with that big foul abusive mouth again. Did I say anywhere in my post that “deviant behavior, transgressions, law breaking, etc.” is acceptable by any police officer? Didn’t think so.

    As Rob P posted, “Not all cops are bad. In fact I believe 99.5% of all cops are good people who believe in the oath they took. It’s the bad cops, corrupt prosecutors and racist judges we need to get rid of”. I agree with that statement.

    Bigotry: An intolerance of those who hold a differing opinion than one’s self. Enough said.

  38. Earl, you failed to address the false equivalence you used, which was incredibly stupid. Comparing a tribe of police to three kids in a family is a profoundly stupid false equivalence. Stupid is as stupid does?

  39. Anarchy 2020 says

    NYPD is currently guarding the Christopher Columbus monument. Cuomo doesn’t think it should be removed. And people going bananas about the national guard standing in front of the Lincoln Memorial. Like I wonder what would have happened if they hadn’t been there.

  40. Rob P, You asked about criminal record for Mr. Floyd ; https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/06/12/george-floyd-criminal-record/ No matter what he was doing or did previously, he did not deserve what he got. Maybe Karma will play out and the cop will receive the same fate in prison.

  41. WeldingWonders says

    “Well, I hate to say it again, but I WAS RIGHT!!!!! I’M RIGHT AGAIN!!!!!”

    STARRING THE ONE AND ONLY FORUM KING DAREAL QUIXOTIC

    EPISODE 16: DAREAL NOT IMPRESSED WITH PERSONAL CLAIMS

    😷😷😷 darealgoodfella 😷😷😷 says
    June 11, 2020 at 6:55 pm
    Okay knuckles, still don’t believe you. You have never detailed your exact role as a licensed medical practitioner, and you have been asked numerous times. So that only leads to one conclusion: you are full of 💩. Many positions in health care need to be licensed. You aren’t impressing me at all

    DAREAL MAKING ONE OF HIS MANY OWN PERSONAL CLAIMS

    darealgoodfella says
    March 9, 2020 at 12:39 pm
    So yes, I am normally preparing multi-million dollar plans and budgets for a variety of huge product development efforts. Knowing how to calculate what something will cost is a major part of what I do with my engineering expertise. Common practice for engineering professionals. It’s what we do.

    DAREAL NOT PROVING HE CAN EVEN COUNT DAYS ON A CALENDAR

    darealgoodfella says
    May 21, 2020 at 1:43 pm
    Um, 4 weeks after June 20 is the end of August.

    NOT IMPRESSED WITH YOUR CLAIMS EITHER!!!!!

  42. Hypothetically, what would happen if NASCAR banned a certain multi colored stripped flag? It’s symbolizes a special interest. While welcomed by some, it is a divisive symbol to others. For corporate America, companies have flown this flag outside their facilities to represent all are welcome, but not without creating some division amongst rank and file employees. June just happens to be their month of celebration. How does a private company like NASCAR draw the line at what is divisive and what is not.

  43. Great move by NASCAR, long overdue. I am sure the 18 people murdered in Chicago over a 24 hour period can now rest in peace knowing that there will be no more Confederate flags flown at NASCAR races.

  44. Bernie 20never, no tires for anyone says

    Homer, while it might be a divisive flag for some it does not represent hate. It does not represent a group that went against the USA. It does not represent a group that wanted to continue to own human beings. It isn’t used by just about every white supremacy group in the country as a symbol of hate.

    One is a symbol of a group. One represents hate.

    It’s shocking the difference has to be explained.

  45. What’s more important substance or perception?
    Trump projects the image of toughness and it’s part of the reason he is so popular with a segment of the population. What’s tough about a privileged youth, fast track entry into business, draft avoidance, pampered adult life style, sexual dalliances, teams of public and private body guards and lawyers to protect him. The tough guy image resonated because it was so different then that of tradition politicians that many feel are squishy and contemptuous by nature.
    So there he is at rallies, balling up his fists and punching the air with a rhetorical flourish and the crowd loves it. Blunt, tough talk directed at foreign leaders, perceived adversaries, regular citizens almost always from afar and with an array of protection. Try to poke holes in it all you like but it makes no difference. Trump supporters believe he’s tough and that’s all that counts.
    George Floyd did have a criminal record and is very much a flawed martyr. But the symbol of a cause much bigger has resonated just like the Trump tough guy image. Floyds past is of no consequence as much as those on the right would like people to believe. The only thing that’s importance now is the injustice his death represents.
    You can say Trump isn’t tough and you can say Floyd does not deserve to be a symbol for equal justice and you’d have a great case to make in both instances. It doesn’t make any difference.

  46. Let’s do this; have a rallies in Tulsa OK, the sight of the worst racial massacre in history. But wait, let’s hold it on Juneteenth. Even better, let’s bring in 90,000 people from all over the country, and make them sign a waiver. And masks, who needs masks.
    What a complete idiot, it’s really hard to believe he’s your president, ain’t it?

  47. We should start a pool on how many of those 90,000 idiots die from Coronavirus. I’ll say 3247.

  48. Anarchy 2020 says

    Mike H. Don’t even think about mentioning the 239 murders in Chicago so far this year. Question anything about BLM and you will be labeled a racist.

  49. Homer, yet another idiotic comment from you. It’s not about divisiveness. It’s about the Constitution and how all people are equal. That means not to be discriminated against by those that discriminate. You like to be a racist and discriminate against others because of their color or other reasons, and because you do so and are now in violation of the Constitution does not mean you are a victim. It’s means you are a discriminating prejudiced racist homophobe, etc.

    You are a racist and hate people that are not like you. I don’t hate any race, class or otherwise of people. That bothers you and causes a divisiveness between us. It’s all on you, you idiot. It’s not my fault or my problem that I am not a discriminating prejudiced racist homophobe like yourself.

    Homer, it is a fact that something like 85% percent of the people that are outwardly homophobic are suppressed homosexuals. Most of these outwardly homophobes are gay, they know it or suspect it, but are cowards, afraid to come out. Studied and proven by the APA.

    Anarchy, yet another idiotic comment from you. What does the 239 murders in Chicago so far this year have to do with NASCAR banning the Confederate Flag, the symbol of white supremacy, at NASCAR events and properties? Is this another stupid and irrelevant false equivalency? More potshot whataboutism?

  50. Not all cops are bad, in fact the overall number is extremely small. Not all white people are racists, again I’d bet the number is relatively small. There are black racists too, but again that number is very small. The events that have happened since the death of George Floyd, are life changing. Except for a very small number of people in isolated incidents, these protests have been very peaceful, with people from all races protesting together for change. Allot of cities, and some states, have taken steps to institute change. This really pisses off all those white supremacists, who the president refers to as ” very nice people” it’s 2020, hate has no place in our society. And those white supremacists, they hate some white people too.
    President Trump has done nothing to help the current situation. He’s moved on from worries about the Covid virus, which is on the rise again. And in response to racial tensions, his record speaks for itself.
    The United States of America is supposed to be the greatest country on Earth, yet recently it would be news to me. It’s time we take our country back, and send a message to every politician, that they work for us, and there is no room for personal agenda’s in this country.

  51. WeldingWonders says

    “Well, I hate to say it again, but I WAS RIGHT!!!!! I’M RIGHT AGAIN!!!!!”

    STARRING THE ONE AND ONLY FORUM KING DAREAL QUIXOTIC

    EPISODE 17: INSULTS AND WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT USE THEM

    Darealgoodfella’s recent use of demeaning insults. A PARTIAL LIST!

    Some stupididiotmorons just can’t help themselves
    Everything happens for a reason, sometimes the reason is you’re stupid and make bad decisions.
    The Trump Administration is stupid
    Are you dumb, nuts, or both?
    That is a profoundly stupid
    I tolerate your opinions, no matter how absurd they may be.
    Earl, you have to get out some, experience more of the world beyond your lawn.
    What is wrong with you people?
    Are you people dumb, nuts, or both????
    PBR, the beer with a cigarette butt in the bottom of each can.
    Anarchy, you just proved you are an idiot.
    Anarchy, you are such an idiot, I have to explain everything to you.
    You clearly have no ability to understand
    Anarchy, you’re an idiot. Try another screen name.
    Stupid is as stupid does, or in this case, posts.
    Those that have a brain and those that do not have a brain
    There are plenty of stupid people.
    Earl, you are clearly an idiot.
    How stupid are you? Clearly you can not and do not understand
    Do you have any comprehension at all?
    You proved conclusively and irrefutably that you are an idiot.
    Stupid is as stupid does.
    Homer, yet another idiotic comment from you.
    You are a racist and hate people that are not like you.
    Anarchy, yet another idiotic comment from you.

    WHAT PSYCHOLOGY TODAY SAYS ABOUT THOSE THAT USE INSULTS IN COMMENTS.

    Psychology Today November 2016.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-human-beast/201611/the-psychology-insults

    “For those who enjoy distributing insults, the internet is a perfect environment, one that can offer a shield of anonymity and an absence of consequences. The larger question is whether the frequency of ill-motivated personal attacks will ride the wave of increasing narcissism or succumb to social controls?”

    “Effective communities maintain solidarity by keeping direct insults to a minimum. Hence the elaborate traditions of politeness and respect found in real-world communities of the past; people behaved that way to avoid unnecessary anger, disputes, and violence.”

  52. Doug (aka: Insipid Cybil, WeldingWonders, RickyInMass, Beavis, Butthead, Waldo), are you feeling threatened? Still feel as if you are the exclusive and supreme judge? Eh, scumbag? You changed your screen name more than your underwear.

    You of all people complaining about what someone else is doing is really rich.

    Let me be specific: HYPOCRITICAL.

    Now go back to searching what other people say so you can post it. That is so freakin’ funny. You must spend hours and hours and hours searching and archiving. You are the pathos.

  53. Dareal, thanks for the useful information in regards to the covid numbers. Some people act as if the virus is gone and no longer a threat to us. The numbers are rising in 20 states now that they aggressively reopened. Utah has paused it’s reopening due to rising cases.
    We are in no way,shape or form safe from Covid.
    Everybody stay safe,strong and sane. Keep social distancing, wearing masks, washing your hands and when you can, stay home. Seems like allot to ask, but the sacrifices we all make now will benefit us later. To all of you who keep doing these simple things THANK YOU! The life you save might be your own, or mine.

  54. WeldingWonders says

    “Well, I hate to say it again, but I WAS RIGHT!!!!! I’M RIGHT AGAIN!!!!!”

    STARRING THE ONE AND ONLY FORUM KING DAREAL QUIXOTIC

    EPISODE 18: PROVING CLAIMS PART 2.

    😷😷😷 darealgoodfella 😷😷😷 says
    June 11, 2020 at 6:55 pm
    Okay knuckles, still don’t believe you. You have never detailed your exact role as a licensed medical practitioner, and you have been asked numerous times. So that only leads to one conclusion: you are full of 💩. Many positions in health care need to be licensed. You aren’t impressing me at all

    BUT DID DAREAL PROVE HE WAS INVOLVED WITH A RACING TEAM?

    darealgoodfella says
    January 26, 2018 at 1:36 pm
    The guns are not $2,000 each. The guns we use are regular battery powered Milwaukee guns. The Milwaukee, DeWalt and Makita ½ inch impact guns go for about $150. Give it up, Willy.

    THE GUNS “WE USE”. INTERESTING. AND WITH WHAT TEAM WOULD THOSE GUNS OF WHICH YOU ARE SO KNOWLEDGEABLE BE????????

    darealgoodfella says
    November 3, 2018 at 9:16 am

    “I asked my team owner why MH was not running regularly and he explained that MH demanded to be paid. And this was around 10 years ago. That’s one of the big reasons why owners don’t go near him.”

    REALLY, YOUR TEAM OWNER. AND YOU ARE WHOM TO WHAT TEAM?????

  55. Gotta say whomever this WeldingWonders guy or gal is he or she has done a pretty bang up job proving you the fool DGF.. In your own words.
    Here’s a fact. People that depend on insults in an anonymous forum tend to be people of lower education, cowards, insecure or any combination of all three. I can’t disagree with Earl, Plugs, Homer, knuckles and many others on the hard right more. However they rarely if ever use mindless insults like idiot, moron and stupid. You and to a lesser extent Rob p do it. . And you particularly do it at an epic level. Mostly to demean the person you don’t have the skills to convince by using strong arguments.

  56. No problem Rob p., glad somebody makes use of it all. Some states are in bad shape. North Carolina is getting worse and worse. If you see a car with NC plates… RUN AWAY!!!!!! The USA had >25,000 new cases, up quite a bit.

    Glad to see someone else sees how this is not over and can flare up again if WE ALL are not careful and considerate.

    Take care.

  57. Asked a hypothetically question, first response from Bernie is an accurate description. Second responder, well here you go;
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/06/11/mike-pence-confirms-reports-pride-flag-banned-embassies/1417031001/

    By the way, there are only a few races I hate, those with lots of cautions, and those where the winner leads the whole way from the pole.

  58. For those interested, there’s a pretty thorough article about George Floyd’s troubled past — with a lot of context — on the Snopes website: https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/06/12/george-floyd-criminal-record/

    No, he wasn’t a choirboy. Yes, he had committed crimes — crimes which the Right is, of course, magnifying and exaggerating. It has nothing to do with how he died.

    —–

    There are multiple problems with the “few bad apples” theory in policing. For example
    – The instances where the bad apples get called out by the good apples are damned few and far between. It has a name: The Blue Code, aka The Blue Wall of Silence. Police unions protect too many bad cops. Gee, what other type of group enforces a “no snitch” policy?
    – A false accusation can have mammoth ramifications; it can cost you your savings, your job, your family, your freedom or your life. In the past few days, I’ve watched videos of cops doing the following: Harass two black kids, and arrest one (who became belligerent), for jaywalking (OK); repeatedly force a weapon INTO the hands of a suspect that was on the ground and being subdued (NYC, I believe); and manufacture an opportunity to gang tackle and arrest a peaceful (though noisy) protestor by causing him to bump into a police officer (Nassau County). And these jackals were being recorded. Imagine what happens when the body cams get turned off.
    – Police leave the station every day authorized to use DEADLY force on civilians. Who else has that power? Damned right they need to be held to a higher standard — a massively higher standard.

    —–

    If a person can’t understand the difference between a LGBTQ flag and the confederate flag, I have no idea what to say to them. Flying one of those flags means “We acknowledge you, and welcome you,” while the other represents a society that A) believed that one human should own another, and B) took up arms against its fellow citizens. Spare me the “it was about states’ rights” trope. The seceding states damned themselves with the racism recorded for history in the secession documents that they published.

    —–

    Our President recently scheduled a rally in Tulsa on Juneteenth near the anniversary of the 1921 Tulsa Race Massacre. If you’ve not read about it, you should; it’s one of the darkest, most horrific events in this nation’s history. As F— You’s go, this rally is one of the biggest and most putrid, and most likely attributable to our Acts of Racism Czar, Stephen Miller.

    But did you also know that the Administration just overturned an Obama-era regulation that effectively prohibited discrimination against trans people by doctors, hospitals and health insurance companies? So, if a trans person shows up at the ER with a suspected case of COVID, or after having been assaulted, a physician can refuse to treat them. And this was announced on the 4-year anniversary of the shooting massacre at the gay nightclub, Pulse, in Orlando. This administration is despicable.

    —–

    On the lighter side, did anyone watch the PPV of the PASS race at White Mountain last weekend? Decent race, and I love me some SLMS, but the PPV vendor left a lot to be desired. I’m all in favor of more of these PPV events, though.

  59. Welding Wonders, please , what is your point? What are you trying to accomplish? You tell how right you are, then proceed to copy back people’s posts, without making a point. Please tell me there is an end result, because I fail to see one. The only thing I see is a bunch of childish B.S.

  60. Trump and his Deplorables hate those that are represented by that multicolored striped flag, referenced in that linked article. The staunch right wingers hate LGBTQ people. Hate them. The staunch right wingers are evangelical Christian right wingers, or cater to them, that MUST hate on an LGBTQ person. It’s in their creed. Trump needs to do it for the votes from the Evangelical voting bloc. A good friend of Donald Trump, Roy Cohn, was abandoned by Trump when he came out. Yet the DNA of Roy Cohn is all over Trump’s campaign, it lived through McCarthy, and lives on with Roger Stone. Trump and his minions, henchmen, and Administration are indeed divisive and do all they can to promote that divisiveness reported in that article. Trump is manifesting divisiveness yet again by not flying the Pride flag to promote equality. If a religion requires hating on a LGBTQ person, the Gov’t is not obligated in any way to honor that discrimination rooted in religion. If the Pride flag is flown, it only pisses off the Evangelicals. Trump is pandering to the Evangelicals for votes by not flying the Pride Flag. Trump needs the votes from the Evangelicals, doesn’t care about the LGBTQ people. The Confederate Flag is all about white supremacy, there should be no argument about that. If banning the Confederate Flag causes divisiveness, and keeps the Deplorables away, I’m good with that. They chose to leave. They were not suppressed or oppressed and forced into duress. They choose to be discriminating, racist, white supremacists, etc. Huge difference.

    Comparing the Pride flag and Confederate flag is as disingenuous a comparison as constantly hijacking a theme of systemic racism and police brutality, and trying to turn it into an attack on the flag and the military, all to cause division. That’s an attempt to squash the very real and legitimate crisis of systemic racism and police brutality.

  61. Homer, re-read your post. I perceive your talking about the LGBQ flag. That flag represents inclusion, that all are welcome. The Confederate flag was flown by people who had ceceeded from the union, so they could continue to own human beings. After the civil war it became a symbol of white supremacy. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and many people fly that flag not realizing it effect on others. If someone wants to fly the Confederate flag at their home they have every right to do so.
    NASCAR has simply asked for people not to fly that flag on their property, or at their events, realizing the tie to white supremacy it now carries. In regard to NASCAR owned properties, they have every right, it’s their property. At events at properties NASCAR doesn’t own, I’d say it should be up to the property owner, but would be willing to bet they would side with NASCAR. I don’t think I’ve ever seen an LGBQ flag at a racing event, but don’t see a reason why NASCAR would ban them as they stand for inclusion, not division. That’s just my opinion though, and others may feel differently about it.

  62. WeldingWonders says

    “Well, I hate to say it again, but I WAS RIGHT!!!!! I’M RIGHT AGAIN!!!!!”

    STARRING THE ONE AND ONLY FORUM KING DAREAL QUIXOTIC WITH SPECIAL GUEST MR. THANK YOU FOR THE SACRIFICE WE ARE ALL MAKING BY STAYING HOME ROB P.

    EPISODE 19: THE CANDIDATE THAT’S NEVER MENTIONED

    darealgoodfella says about Trump:

    -Trump and his administration are depraved and diabolical racists, and to be specific due to your incredibly poor comprehension, white supremacist Dopey Don rattled a hornets nest here for sure.
    -The USA is now a laughingstock because of Don the Con.
    -President Plump is making it look like all is well, while nearly 30 states still have uncontrolled epidemic levels of infection, and some states have yet to be impacted.
    -President Plump, again defying the experts, just issued a threat to move August’s Republican National Convention from Charlotte
    -President Plump needs to have a rally, surrounded by all those adoring sheeple.
    -I remember President Plump ran on a platform of law and order.
    -The Trump Administration is stupid and only cares about doing what its base and the upper 1% cares about.
    -Sonny, your FEARFUL leader, Donald J. Trump, is TERRIFIED about getting the coronavirus.
    -DONALD J. TRUMP IS AN ADMITTED GERMAPHOBE.
    -Your boy Don-the-Con is TERRIFIED of getting COVID-19.
    -At one of the the meetings Trump had with Kim Jung Un, Trump repeatedly assured folks that he was not going to call KJU fat.
    -Anarchy, your boy Trump said hydroxychloroquine was a cure for the pandemic.
    -It is interesting that while Trump is sequestered and protected from the coronavirus
    -History isn’t even waiting to judge Trump. He’s being inducted into the Idiots Hall of Fame immediately.
    -I do think much more of the population realizes that Trump is an idiot t
    -Imagine what the Trump library will look like? I doubt he’ll get one. It will be like a one room school house full of Sharpie doodles.
    -Trump’s stupidity is profoundly entertaining.
    -Trump learned early on to not pick winners or losers
    – Trump is clueless and incompetent.
    -And the deficit. How’s Trump doing with that?
    – Trump said it was like the seasonal flu
    -Trump proves over and over
    -The Tr Trump this evening with his daily campaign presser ump machine is spooling up, right out of the McCarthyism playbooK
    -Knuckles, we are discussing the reason why racing isn’t happening, which is the failure of the Dopey Donald Administration to remediate the COVID-19 pandemic.
    -When I see/hear Trump, I think of Fredo Corleone and/or Biff Tannen
    -Can anyone imagine the Trump Library?
    -Earl, Trump and Dr. Fauci are not getting along
    – Trump would not have sole control over a $500 billion dollar slush fund
    -Trump and his Deplorables hate

    Rob p says about Trump:
    -. I think before the end of April orders will be extended due to lack of testing, plus even if the states do reopen, they will probably exclude large gatherings, again due to lack of testing. THANK YOU DONALD TRUMP!!!!
    -No matter what your buddy Trump says the virus is very real, very deadly and it’s not just going to disappear.
    -WTF, Donald Trump has enacted his corrupt power to try and activate the Military, to stop the protests going on Nationwide.
    -Donald Trump has been speaking hateful rhetoric for years, greatly dividing our country.
    -After Donald Trump’s stunt the other night, the protesters are now protesting him too.
    -Trump could have handled this whole situation very different, but, like with everything else he didn’t, instead fueling the outrage gripping our country.
    -Covid 19 is not going to just disappear, as Trump wants you to believe.
    -President Trump today said that his trip to the secure bunker beneath the white house was not due to the protests,
    -He says he knew nothing about police teargassing protests in front of the white house
    -This guy must think we’re all stupid.
    if Trump and his buddies had taken this seriously,
    -Just said how Trump admin. Knew about this
    -Trump said it would be gone in a week
    -Trump said he didn’t want those people getting off
    -Trump lacks leadership skills,
    -Another sign of just how STUPID Trump is
    -Trump library’s gonna have allot of crudely drawn pictures

    NOTICEABLY ABSENT…………………………JOE BIDEN

  63. Why did NASCAR have to ban this glad again? Didn’t get ban it in 2015? I don’t understand why this even came up again. My only guess is it wasn’t enforced anywhere and now will be? I know Brian France already banned this. Even the ESPN article mentioned it. So why the need to ban again? Anyone else know? Thanks

  64. Why did NASCAR have to ban this flag again? Didn’t get ban it in 2015? I don’t understand why this even came up again. My only guess is it wasn’t enforced anywhere and now will be? I know Brian France already banned this. Even the ESPN article mentioned it. So why the need to ban again? Anyone else know? Thanks

  65. Homer, what you are trying to do by comparing the Pride flag and the Confederate flag is similar to what Trump does by conflating kneeling during an anthem in protest to racism and police brutality, with Trump’s accusation that saying that the kneeling was intended to disrespect the flag and military. Totally wrong comparison.

    The Pride flag represents anti-discrimination by those that are being discriminated, suppressed and oppressed. All they want is to be treated equally, equal rights. Yaknow, get to enjoy the provisions of the Constitution. Why do you want to prevent that? The Confederate flag represents those that wanted to continue the practice of slavery and white supremacy.

    I highly recommend you visit the National Museum of African American History and Culture. You need a couple days to see the whole place. There’s a section that goes through the progression of slavery and settlement, and how the concept of whiteness developed. That’s when and how white supremacy took root. In an interesting twist, white supremacy developed from slavery. The owning of slaves went beyond the seemingly simple transaction of buying and owning labor to reduce cost to your business, to developing a supremacy in civilization that went beyond ownership, to a totalitarian legal authority of whites over blacks.

    You may say you aren’t stupid, but your behavior says otherwise. Actions speak louder than words.

    “There is separation of colored people from white people in the United States. That separation is not a disease of colored people. It is a disease of white people. I do not intend to be quiet about it.” – Albert Einstein

  66. Racer28, here you go, from The Washington Post:

    “In the weeks after a white supremacist murdered nine black people at a Charleston church in 2015, NASCAR asked its fans to keep Confederate flags away from the racetrack. The flag had come down at the statehouse in South Carolina, and now Dale Earnhardt Jr. was calling on racing fans to follow suit.

    “It does nothing for anybody to be there flying, so I don’t see any reason,” the star driver said at the time. “It belongs in the history books and that’s about it.”

    But it soon became clear that NASCAR’s request had gone nowhere. Confederate flags were still flying high on campers in the infield and at nearby campsites, especially at racetracks in the South. Despite pleas from officials, there would be fans in the crowd who denied it was a sign of racial oppression.

    So NASCAR’s announcement Tuesday that it was banning the flag outright marks a stunning step for the racing world. The story of how the sport came up short just five years ago shows how much the consensus has shifted in the wake of nationwide protests against racism and police brutality following George Floyd’s death last month.”

    Racer28, in 2015 after a white supremacist murdered numerous black people in a church, NASCAR asked fans to stop displaying the Confederate flag at tracks and events. Of course, the white supremacists ignored that request and kept flying their flag. Now, after numerous protests against systemic white supremacy racism of whites against blacks, and that NASCAR’s black driver made the request, NASCAR is now banning the Confederate flag, the symbol of white supremacy.

    It’s pretty simple. Do you understand?

  67. Bet y’all are wishing we could just go back to discussing COVID-19.

  68. Welding, point? Everything you copied from my posts was factual. So what’s your point, other than looking like an idiot

  69. In other news, the COVID-19 pandemic is still here.

    Current USA deaths: 117,555

    The virus 🦠 is surging in over 20 states.

    California was doing good in the beginning, but is now seeing a surge. FL, TX, AZ, AK, NC, LA, GA, AL, SC, AR, HI, KY, ME, MS, MO, MT, NV, NM, ND, OK, OR, SD, UT, VT, WA, WV, WI, and TN are all seeing increases in cases over the last couple weeks. Not good at all. Some cities are reporting running out of hospital capacity.

    Mobility can spread this all over again. Sit tight folks.

    Wear a mask. 😷 Distance. Wash your hands often.

  70. Atlanta mayor has told Trump to mind his own business and let the Democrat controlled cities burn. You go girl!! You tell him!!

  71. Anarchy 2020 says

    Dawokefella. Overnight an expert on the LGBTQIA and black community. Whoops the genius forgot the IA

  72. Hmmm…

    Racing is off because of the #TrumpPandemic. The USA has 27.1% of the global deaths.

    NASCAR bans Confederate flag.

    None of this has anything to do with Atlanta. Atlanta has nothing to do with racing on this site.

    The Secret Service confirmed it used tear gas in Lafayette Square, it was not simply benign smoke bombs, to clear the crowds for Trump’s photo op. Just correcting Mike H from an earlier post of his.

  73. “Well, I hate to say it again, but I WAS RIGHT!!!!! I’M RIGHT AGAIN!!!!!”

    STARRING THE ONE AND ONLY FORUM KING DAREAL QUIXOTIC

    EPISODE 20: THE GAS LIGHTER IN CHIEF DAREAL ON GAS LIGHTING.

    darealgoodfella says
    April 12, 2018 at 9:38 am
    Rob p., opinions are fine, they are not facts. You, and Doug (aka: WeldingWonders, Sybil, et al.) need to get over that. Repeating an opinion over and over does not make it a fact… it’s called gaslighting. It’s a technique Hitler used. Repeat something over and over, people give in and start to believe it as fact. If your opinions get picked apart and left as rubble on the side of the road, too bad. But then, you are trying to conflate opinions with facts. And you and others have yet to present facts as to the alleged TECHNICAL benefits of the LFR CHASSIS.

    DAREAL GAS LIGHTING

    😷😷😷 darealgoodfella 😷😷😷 says
    June 14, 2020 at 1:33 pm

    Racing is off because of the #TrumpPandemic.

    IT IS NOT NOW NOR HAS IT EVER BEEN A TRUMP PANDEMIC AND REPEATING IT DOZENS OF TIME WON’T CHANGE IT.

    THE DAREAL AND ROB P INSULT COUNTER HAS BEEN RESET AND STARTS NOW.

  74. It’s the #TrumpPandemic alright. If Trump, aka: Agent Orange, would have acted just a month earlier it would have saved 30,000 Americans. It is definitely the #TrumpPandemic. Trump owns it.

    Racing is off and disrupted because of the #TrumpPandemic

    Watching the Cup race, love all the talk about the banning of the Confederate Flag, symbol of white supremacy.

  75. Anarchy 2020 says

    Dafella accusing Rop b. of using Hitler type tactics😂😂😂

  76. Anyone on here remember the TV sitcom Cheers? Cliff Clavin was the know it all who always sat at the end of the bar, knew everything about everything, gave these long tiresome speeches which bored everyone to tears and was always correcting and talking down to anyone who disagreed with him. He knew everything about everything…the only thing he didn’t know was that everyone was laughing at him behind his back. Anyone care to offer an opinion on who might be the Cliff Clavin of the RacedayCT forum?

  77. So where did trumpandemic originate. Hard to say but on or around March 20 a messaging war broke out between surrogates of the Chinese and US government about labeling the pandemic. Trump was using China virus and the Xinhua News Agency started labeling the pandemic #trumpandemic.
    From the Washington Post to the NY Times, to the news departments at ABC, NBC, CBS or even CNN or MSNBC no news source uses or gives any credibility to #trumpandemic. Do a search on CNN and it comes back with nothing. It’s a meme now used on social media by rabid Trump haters like darealgooodfella.
    In my view #tumpandemic is a blatantly partisan distraction the trivializes a global crises and incorrectly puts it entirely on the shoulders of Trump which is ludicrous. Trump can and will be judged by history for his slow response to the virus when it reached the US. However he has had no responsibility in it’s spread in Asia, Italy the UK, France, Spain or any other country or region of the world outside the US hit hard by Covid19. Referring to it as trumpandemic actually muddles the handling of controlling the virus in the US conflating with the rest of the world and hyperbolizing it into silly distraction used by disingenuous partisans.
    There is no trumpandemic. It’s one thing to go on years gas lighting Coby with the cheater carburetor label. Another level entirely gas lighting a comments forum for months with a far left meme that only exists in the deep and ugly recesses of left wing zealot sub culture.

  78. Mike H, here’s my list:

    Mike H
    knuckles
    Doug
    WeldingWonders
    RickyInMass
    Waldo
    Anarchy 2020, et al.

    And a few others I can’t bother to recall.

  79. I’m so confused. Where’s Waldo? STOP YELLING!!!.
    I all seriousness, this was yet another toxic weekend in America. Trump’s plan is working, he’s dividing this nation with his rhetoric.
    It’s time we say ENOUGH. Not only to Donald Trump, but any Official who aims to divide us as a nation. This is not about Black Lives Matter, or LGBQ+. This is about the rights of every single American. It’s time to send a loud and clear message, one that will not be soon forgotten. Why can’t we all just get along? This is the time, when we all need to band together to heel our nation from both the hatred and the virus. We ARE the greatest nation on Earth, let’s start acting like it.
    Stay safe,strong and sane, and do the right thing. If you need to ask…it’s already too late.

  80. WeldingWonders says

    “I’ve got a 178 IQ. I’ve got degrees in both mechanical, and electrical engineering”

    STARRING CAN’T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG ROB P

    EPISODE 1: DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO.

    WHAT ROB P DOES IS POINT FINGERS AND ACCUSE PEOPLE USING TOXIC LABELS

    Rob p. says
    June 11, 2020 at 6:17 pm
    Daddy Dave, you just don’t get it do you? It’s ok, your a racist, probably a trait instilled in you. It be nice if you could please give out the link where you saw Floyd’s arrest record. Oh, wait, you can’t. George Floyd might not have been a “model” citizen, but from everything I’ve been able to find he was far from a criminal.

    WHAT ROB P SAYS IS WE SHOULD ALL GET ALONG. THAT IS IF YOU AGREE WITH ROB P

    Rob p. says
    June 15, 2020 at 9:37 am
    Why can’t we all just get along? This is the time, when we all need to band together to heel our nation from both the hatred and the virus. We ARE the greatest nation on Earth, let’s start acting like it.

  81. Point? Please for the love of God, w he at the f— is your point? Even a preschool kid can sit in front of a computer reposting stuff. So what is the point your trying to make? What is the message your trying to get access? Please tell me. BTW. IQ 118, that was a typo that I later corrected you idiot. Seems only you have problems with multiple people here. Can you say common denominator? And please stop YELLING. It’s just not polite.

  82. IQ wrong again. But, don’t matter, I’m still smarter than you.

  83. Mike H, if I may add to dareals list and mine is a very short one;

    DAREAALGOODFELLA

  84. Rob p., give it up. Doug et al. do not understand the differences between facts and opinions. They think their opinions are facts and should also be received as facts by everyone else. It’s impossible for them to explain those opinions as facts because they simply can not be substantiated and proven as fact.

    A fact denied is still a fact.

    In other news, the White House put out a release attacking the Voice of America, the US Government run news source, that was so bizarre, the rest of the intelligent world thought the White House website was hacked: https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/amid-a-pandemic-voice-of-america-spends-your-money-to-promote-foreign-propaganda/

    This is some crazy 💩.

    😜 😝

  85. I’m not a racist, let me repeat, I’m not a racist. By now you’ve all seen the video footage of the man shot by police at an Atlanta Wendy’s. The policeman was fired, and the chief resigned. The question I pose, was it justified?
    Laws differ state by state concerning drunk driving. But I would have to say that A. If you fall asleep in the drive thru, and B. If you fail a field sobriety check, that you would be considered to be intoxicated, and the police would be justified in arresting you. If while being arrested, you resist, get in a scuffle with 2 cops, grab one cops taser, while being tased, and proceed to run away eventually turning and aiming said taser at the police, you might get shot. In Georgia, a taser is considered to be a firearm according to state law. Therefore I’d say, based on the footage I’ve seen, and knowing the law, that the cop was justified for his actions. But apparently others thought otherwise. Where do we draw the line? If that man had managed to pull out a gun and get a shot or shots off we may be looking at a dead cop, or civilian, as there were people present in that parking lot. Being a cop is a very very stressful job. Life changing decisions are made instantaneously, they’re not given time to think things through. Many cops leave their home in the morning, hoping to return home that night unscathed. There probably are a few cops who leave home, hoping to shoot someone, they are the ones giving all cops a bad rap.
    Take it one step further, what if the cops had let that guy go, and he ended up killing someone while driving drunk? Where would we be now? Again, I’m not a racist but I do believe that shooting was justified, regardless of the color of the guys skin.

  86. Rob p., The guy was shot twice IN THE BACK WHILE HE WAS RUNNING AWAY, he posed no threat to the police officers.

    Maybe if the cops were not obese and out of shape they could give chase on foot instead of whipping out their guns to shoot a fleeing suspect in the back.

    If the police were justified in using lethal force against a Taser, then Tasers need to be outlawed. Besides, a Taser is a one shot deal.

    Let the guy run away, then chase him on foot. They knew who he was, spent nearly an hour with him before they tried to cuff him, and had his car. They spent an hour with him, knew he was not armed.

  87. WeldingWonders says

    “Well, I hate to say it again, but I WAS RIGHT!!!!! I’M RIGHT AGAIN!!!!!”

    STARRING THE ONE AND ONLY FORUM KING DAREAL QUIXOTIC

    EPISODE 21: DAREALGOODFELLA UNWITTINGLY BECOMES A PROPAGANDIST FOR THE OFFICIAL CHINESE NEWS AGENCY.

    FACEBOOK MARCH 21
    CHINESE STATE RUN MEDIA USING #TRUMPANDEMIC AS WELL AS #TRUMPVIRUS

    China Xinhua News
    China state-controlled media • March 21 •
    “Weaponizing bigotry and stereotypes for political gain,” global media giants continue to criticize Trump for labelling #COVID19 the “Chinese Virus.” #Trumpandemic #TrumpVirus

    DAREALGOODFELLA A MONTH LATER PARROTING THE OFFICIAL CHINESE NEWS AGENCY

    darealgoodfella says
    April 24, 2020 at 9:27 pm
    So we close out another day of the #TrumpPandemic.
    New Cases: 38,764
    New Deaths: 1,951
    Total Deaths: 52,185

    CONCLUSION: SUSCEPTIBLE MINDS ARE EASILY MANIPULATED

  88. Dareal, your fight, some totally F’ed up stuff. But remember we cannot badmouth Donald. He’s done more for people of color than every other president. Words straight out of his mouth, although he did give Lincoln a pass, which he abruptly cast doubt on. What’s totally F’ed up is that there are allot of people who will actually believe the lies coming out if his mouth. Yes, the Coronavirus most likely started in China. Yes, the numbers they reported were most likely understated. And, Yes, the virus may have started long before they informed the WHO. But, Trump knew about this virus on January 3rd, yet waited until mid March before taking any action. The actions he took were too few. If he had acted properly it’s possible 30,000 to 40,000 people would not have list their lives. And yet, today, his response is still inadequate and people continue to die
    #Trumppandemic
    In other news, Donald continues his ignorance. Why? Because the people protesting are not his voters, again words straight out of his mouth. I don’t think he gets it. These protests are worldwide, and show no sign at all of stopping anytime soon. These protestors may not be his voters, but may just turn out to be his demise.
    Did you see the new commercials from the group voters against Trump? Good stuff. Honest words from someone considered to be a respected senator.
    #not my voters

  89. Anarchy 2020 says

    If you need to say you’re not a racist, twice, you’re a racist times two.

  90. Dareal, I didn’t say the officer did the right thing. Yes they knew who he was, they had his car, and they could have let him run away and dealt with him later. All I was saying is going by the current laws, when he aimed that Taser at the cop, because a Taser is considered a firearm in Georgia, the cop was justified. That’s if you throw common sense out the window, and go only by the letter of the law. Like I said, I don’t think it was right.
    Someone on a news show said
    “If sense was common, everyone would have it”
    Where do we draw the line though? Should cops stop and think it through before taking action? I didn’t see the cop Pat him down in any video, so how do they know he was unarmed? BTW there have been cases where someone tased has died, although highly unlikely, it has happened
    I’m not defending the cops actions, but again where do you draw the line?

  91. Well, the Confederate Flag was banned by NASCAR.

    Hey you white supremacists, you got a problem with that?

  92. knuckles mahoney says

    WeldingWonders, keep up the good work. Dareals new forum name is Cliff Clavin. Thanks Mike H.

  93. knuckles posted, “WeldingWonders, keep up the good work. Dareals new forum name is Cliff Clavin. Thanks Mike H.”

    Hey, and you guys are the ones complaining about name calling. Not surprised you guys couldn’t find your way to the high road.

    Hypocrite. ✔️

  94. Ole Timer Trivia:
    Who had the first Cavalier bodied modified? What year?

  95. Rob p., YES! Of course cops should THINK before deploying lethal force. OF COURSE! Police are supposedly well trained in the use of lethal force.

    I don’t care where some line is, the thing is, that guy did not have to die. No way, no how. I don’t care if the laws of GA or rules of engagement ALLOWED the shooting, it was not necessary at all. From all the video I have seen, a drunk guy was running away from the police, and the police shot him from BEHIND – dead.

    There’s no way an LEO would spend that much time with a suspect and not confirm he was unarmed.

    I knew a guy that was a cop. The reason he became a cop was because the training was easier and shorter than the training to be come a semi-truck driver.

    A lawyer friend does trial cases. He tells me the cases he sees brought by cops are disgusting. He says cops are the most despicable human beings.

  96. Cliff Clavin says

    Mike H, what do you mean people were laughing at me behind my back?????? I can’t help it if I’m the smartest guy in the world!! Why would people laugh behind my back because I am the smartest guy in the world???

  97. Dareal, I totally agree with you 100% the guy did not have to die. I agree the cop did the wrong thing. I was pointing out, that due to some very stupid laws, legally the shooting was justified. This is what happens when the wrong people end up with guns and badges, and lack of proper training.
    Not all cops are bad. 99% of them are good people. Defunding police forces will only lead to more unnecessary deaths. Police need better training, and more of it. In most cases police training is less than 1 year,yet they hold the power of life and death in their hands. Police should have to go through phycological reviews before even being trained, and at regular intervals while on the job. Until drastic changes are made, these tradgedies will continue to happen. But again, what happened was wrong, but given the current laws, chances are the cop will beat any charges if charges are filed.
    In Springfield Massachusetts the city council recently voted ( before George Floyd’s death) to establish an oversight board made up of both city and police officials, as well as city residents. The idea being for better oversight to stop racial and social discrimination by cops. The police union has taken court action to try to stop this from happening. Blue Wall at its best. Regardless of the color of someone’s skin, nobody should die from the unjustified use of force by the police, yet I feel it will continue to happen even with aggressive reform. Again thanks to the “blue Wall of silence”

  98. knuckles mahoney says

    LMAO. You rock Cliff.

  99. Dareal, I totally agree with you 100% the guy did not have to die. I agree the cop did the wrong thing. I was pointing out, that due to some very stupid laws, legally the shooting was justified. This is what happens when the wrong people end up with guns and badges, and lack of proper training.
    Not all cops are bad. 99% of them are good people. Defunding police forces will only lead to more unnecessary deaths. Police need better training, and more of it. In most cases police training is less than 1 year,yet they hold the power of life and death in their hands. Police should have to go through phycological reviews before even being trained, and at regular intervals while on the job. They should also spend less time learning how to shoot a gun, and subdue people and more time learning to de-escalate situations and interact with people, some of which may be intoxicated or incapacitated like autistic people. Until drastic changes are made, these tradgedies will continue to happen. But again, what happened was wrong, but given the current laws, chances are the cop will beat any charges if charges are filed.
    In Springfield Massachusetts the city council recently voted ( before George Floyd’s death) to establish an oversight board made up of both city and police officials, as well as city residents. The idea being for better oversight to stop racial and social discrimination by cops. The police union has taken court action to try to stop this from happening. Blue Wall at its best. Regardless of the color of someone’s skin, nobody should die from the unjustified use of force by the police, yet I feel it will continue to happen even with aggressive reform. Again thanks to the “blue Wall of silence”

  100. My answer to Rob P trivia…

    Was it Geoff Bodine in the 81 Thompson 300?

  101. Dagoodfella says:

    A lawyer friend does trial cases. He tells me the cases he sees brought by cops are disgusting. He says cops are the most despicable human beings

    Well, that settles it everyone! Dagoodfella’s “friend” is of the OPINION that “cops are the most despicable human beings”. Alert the presses!! Alert the unions!! Alert the elected officials!! No more debate is necessary! Dagoodfella’s “friend” OPINION must be taken as a FACT….

  102. Phil A great job, yes it was Bodine, at the 300. And the car actually looked like he peeled the body off a street car, complete with the potmetal tailcaps. That car changed the history of modified racing.

  103. Rob p., you acknowledge the “blue wall of silence”. Well, that right there means that all cops that abide by the code of “the blue wall of silence” are aiding and abetting the bad cops. Hence, therefore and forthwith, all such cops are guilty of being bad cops.

    But there’s just so much winning… NASCAR banned the Confederate flag. Except this one: 🏳️

  104. This is the remaining Confederate flag:

    🏳️ 🏳️ 🏳️ 🏳️ 🏳️ 🏳️ 🏳️ 🏳️ 🏳️ 🏳️ 🏳️ 🏳️ 🏳️

    And it gets waved on the last lap of every race!!!! Poetic.

    🤣 🤣 🤣 😝 😝 😝 😝 😝 🤣 😝 🤣 🤣 😝 😝 🤣 😝

  105. Daddydave posted, “First off Rob P I’m far from racist considering I come from a mixed black and white family …”

    Daddydave doesn’t appear to be very happy to be in a mixed race family.

    How did this happen?

    Please list your family members, not by name, but as husband, wife, son, son-in-law, daughter-in-law, daughter, grandson, granddaughter, etc. and which are black, white, other, etc.

    You certainly do not project the image of being a proud mixed race family.

  106. WeldingWonders says

    “Well, I hate to say it again, but I WAS RIGHT!!!!! I’M RIGHT AGAIN!!!!!”

    STARRING THE ONE AND ONLY DAREAL AKA RACEDAYCT’S OWN CLIFF CLAVEN

    EPISODE 21: DO AS I ASK, NOT AS I ANSWER SAYS DAREAL

    DAREAL ASKING QUESTIONS OF THOSE MAKING CLAIMS

    😷😷😷 darealgoodfella 😷😷😷 says
    June 16, 2020 at 9:29 am

    Daddydave doesn’t appear to be very happy to be in a mixed race family.
    How did this happen?
    Please list your family members, not by name, but as husband, wife, son, son-in-law, daughter-in-law, daughter, grandson, granddaughter, etc. and which are black, white, other, etc.

    DAREAL MAKING CLAIMS BUT NOT ANSWERING QUESTIONS ABOUT THEM

    DAREALGOODFELLA
    WILL YOU SAY WHERE YOU LIVE………………OVER 300 MILES OF THOMPSON
    CAN YOU SAY WHAT STATE YOU LIVE IN…………….WON’T SAY
    WHAT TEAM WERE YOU ASSOCIATED WITH……….WON’T SAY
    WHAT TEAMS ARE YOU “WORKING WITH”……….CAN’T SAY
    WHAT LARGE COMPANY DID YOU DO ENGINEERING WORK FOR………WON’T SAY
    WHAT COLLEGE OR UNIVERSITY DID YOU ATTEND………..CAN’T SAY
    WHAT AREA OF ENGINEERING DID YOU STUDY……….THEM ALL
    WHAT TRACK IS YOUR HOME TRACK………ANYONE THAT IS BEING DISCUSSED
    WHAT RACES TO YOU ATTEND……….EVERY ONE BEING DISCUSSED
    WHAT CHASSIS FABRICATION AND SETUP EXPERIENCE DO YOU HAVE…….CAN’T SAY

    DADDYDAVE YOU JUST GOT CLAVENED!!!

  107. PLEASE STOP YELLING. Your scaring Waldo.

  108. Doug, thank you again for another rousing demonstration of your profound lunacy.

    Anyways, it’s a lovely day here, within the 349 mile radius of Thompson.

  109. Anarchy 2020 says

    Dafellas lawyer friend says all cops are despicable. Once again Rob p you are wrong! According to dawokefella.

  110. Dareal, LMFAO. But I guess you’d be right about that being the last Confederate flag. Never understood why the white flag is used to signal final lap, as it’s internationally known as the flag of surrender. Also never knew that there were 2 real Confederate flags. Amazing what you can learn in a time of national crisis.

  111. Cliff Clav……er…..dareal has spoken! Hope all you low life right wingers were paying attention so you could learn something! The least you can do is pay attention when Cliff…er….dareal shares his knowledge with us…..after all, he doesn’t even charge us for all the wonderful learning opportunities he lays out there for us!!

  112. The cities of Springfield and Chicopee Massachusetts have joined a growing list of cities across the country, declaring racism a public health emergency. I thought racism was a social issue, not a health issue.

  113. The state of Massachusetts is offering free Covid testing tommorow June 17th, at 50 sites across the state. The hope is that any Massachusetts resident who recently attended a large gathering (protest) will take advantage, and get tested. The tests are absolutely free to all Massachusetts residents. I hope anyone who’s attended the recent protests will take advantage of this opportunity, and get tested.

  114. “Never understood why the white flag is used to signal final lap, as it’s internationally known as the flag of surrender.”

    Maybe it was the only one left.

    I would think each flag has to be obviously different from the others, so if the last lap flag incorporated any of the other colors it could be mistaken for the others if waved. Colors like orange may look like the red or yellow in certain lighting.

    Other types of racing use multi-colored flags, such as the red and yellow striped surface hazard or black and red meatball, but they aren’t usually waved, they’re held open like a sign for display to the drivers. Road racing uses the white to warn of slow moving vehicles ahead, not the last lap.

  115. Thanks Barry, never thought of it that way, as far as colors being mistaken. Wonder what the colorblind guys do.

  116. Dareal, I don’t understand why you are complaining about name calling and not surprised knuckles and welding couldn’t find their way to the high road.

    Lets take a look at your approach to the “high road”;

    Some stupididiotmorons just can’t help themselves
    Everything happens for a reason, sometimes the reason is you’re stupid and make bad decisions.
    The Trump Administration is stupid
    Are you dumb, nuts, or both?
    That is a profoundly stupid
    I tolerate your opinions, no matter how absurd they may be.
    Earl, you have to get out some, experience more of the world beyond your lawn.
    What is wrong with you people?
    Are you people dumb, nuts, or both????
    PBR, the beer with a cigarette butt in the bottom of each can.
    Anarchy, you just proved you are an idiot.
    Anarchy, you are such an idiot, I have to explain everything to you.
    You clearly have no ability to understand
    Anarchy, you’re an idiot. Try another screen name.
    Stupid is as stupid does, or in this case, posts.
    Those that have a brain and those that do not have a brain
    There are plenty of stupid people.
    Earl, you are clearly an idiot.
    How stupid are you? Clearly you can not and do not understand
    Do you have any comprehension at all?
    You proved conclusively and irrefutably that you are an idiot.
    Stupid is as stupid does.
    Homer, yet another idiotic comment from you.
    You are a racist and hate people that are not like you.
    Anarchy, yet another idiotic comment from you.

    Seems like you take the low road more often than not to me…………

  117. Earl, when in Rome…

    Then consider Doug, he went and created numerous screen names to carry on conversations with himself to make it look like others agreed with him. Still laughable today. And then he promised to leave, yet he’s still here. Absolutely ZERO credibility.

  118. The cops involved in the shooting death of Rashard Brooke’s have been charged.
    The cop who fired the lethal shots has had 11 charges levied against him including Felony Murder, which if convicted could result in the death sentence. The second cop had 3 charges brought, but has also turned states witness.
    This is the 9th time a Fulton county cop has been charged for a homicide, all the victims were black.
    I said before that going by the letter of the law, that the shooting was justified. I was going by bad information from the media.
    This is an unfortunate incident, that never should happen. Hopefully the shooter is convicted, and punished by death. As for the second officer, it’s good to see him coming forward, even if it is to save his own ass.

  119. WeldingWonders says

    By the way, I’ve got a 178 IQ
    BTW. IQ 118, that was a typo that I later corrected you idiot.
    IQ wrong again. But, don’t matter, I’m still smarter than you.

    STARRING CAN’T WE ALL JUST COME TOGETHER ROB P.

    EPISODE 2: NOT MY FAULT. THE MEDIA MADE ME WRONG

    ON THE ATLANTA WENDY’S SHOOTING
    Rob p. says
    June 15, 2020 at 3:34 pm
    Therefore I’d say, based on the footage I’ve seen, and knowing the law, that the cop was justified for his actions.

    ON SECOND THOUGHT…………

    Rob p. says
    June 17, 2020 at 4:28 pm
    I said before that going by the letter of the law, that the shooting was justified. I was going by bad information from the media.

    THE MEDIA’S FAULT…….GOT IT!!!!

  120. At least I don’t have to post with 5 different screen names to have a conversation. Your Right about 1 thing Welding Wonders, or is it Doug, your an idiot. Wait, is that your mom yelling down the cellar stairs to let you know dinners ready? GET A LIFE

  121. Wonders, you should change your screen name. Might I suggest the following
    Momslittlecellardweller
    It seems to suit you

  122. Boy, I wish I could be perfect like you Welding Wonders. Your so perfect we should throw out our Bible’s and consider you our God. Then reality set in and I now realize your just an idiotic loser, who can’t even generate a unique thought if your own, and need multiple screen names to make it seem as though someone agrees with you. A toddler can exclaim ” IM RIGHT AGAIN” and then repost other people’s posts, never explaining what makes him right.
    Go back to Mom’s basement you pathetic loser.

  123. Moronia has a new king..Welding Wonders. Moronia is a little known nation of, you guessed it, morons. In Moronia original thinking is outlawed. Reposting is considered a national pastime. In Moronia everyone is given multiple names at birth. In Moronia there are no houses, only basements.
    May you reign supreme in Moronia, Welding Wonders.

  124. Doug et al. are way bigly perfectly beautifully triggered. All of his fraudulent screen names and deceptive alter egos.

    Rob p., I heard reports just now that the Taser Rayshard Brooks had was already discharged and spent, and the officers knew it. Therefore the officers were NOT at any risk by the Taser.

    The LEOs opened fire right next to a line of customers in cars. Just feet away. A stray bullet had an extremely high chance of collateral damage.

  125. Rob p., here’s the best part… Doug et al. does not understand what he’s reading or reposting. He’s just bloviating and the masses eat it up. He’s modeling himself after Trump, Hannity, Tucker Carlson, Bill O’Reilly, Ingraham, Pirro, et al.

    Have fun with it. Have fun with it.

    And your comment about his never posting an original comment or contributing content is so true. He’s a parasite. He never goes to a track, has nothing to share.

    Promised to leave, but keeps coming back. No credibility.

    Doug & Co. are T-R-I-G-G-E-R-E-D.

  126. You must now refer to him as ‘Doug,proverbial king of Moronia’
    I saw the DA’s news conference yesterday. Some very disturbing stuff came out. What I had said the other day was based on info from an interview CNN did with the former county prosecutors. I have always believed that the shooting was not justified, but that former prosecutor had said that barring common sense, going strictly by the laws of the state of Georgia, that the shooting could be rules as justified. I don’t think he knew the guy was aiming an empty taser, or allot of other facts that came out yesterday. I’m glad to see all the charges being pursued, that cop should have to pay for his behavior.
    In other news, how bout Bolton’s book? Hope he’s able to publish it, or the media leaks more. Every day Trump digs that hole a little deeper

  127. WeldingWonders says

    By the way, I’ve got a 178 IQ
    BTW. IQ 118, that was a typo that I later corrected you idiot.
    IQ wrong again. But, don’t matter, I’m still smarter than you.

    STARRING THE MAN THAT NEVER SLEEPS….ROB P

    “Therefore I’d say, based on the footage I’ve seen, and knowing the law, that the cop was justified for his actions.”

    “I said before that going by the letter of the law, that the shooting was justified. I was going by bad information from the media.”

    ” What I had said the other day was based on info from an interview CNN did with the former county prosecutors.”

    “I have always believed that the shooting was not justified”

    YOU MAY WANT TO RECONSIDER RETHINKING THAT NO SLEEP THING.

  128. Ok Doug proverbial king of Moronia’. Can see you still haven’t learned to conceive an original thought yet. Go back into your mom’s basement before your stupidity rubs off on others. I may be sleepless, but your stupid, and I can always take a nap.

  129. Doug supports Bruce Bemer. Doug says we should patronize Waterford to increase Bemer’s wealth so the victims have more assets to go after. So stupid some people might believe it.

  130. And that’s why he is the undisputed king of Moronia, the tiny nation made up of…morons. A nation where original thought is outlawed, and reposting without purpose is the national pastime. A nation where their king lives in his mom’s basement. Oh so very pathetic are this moronians.

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