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  1. NFL PICK 4- WEEK 2 Pick 4 Results says

    NFL PICK 4- WEEK 2 Pick 4 Results

    Wild Card-Bengals (-7) at the Cowboys
    Patriots (-1.5) at the Steelers
    Browns (-6) play at home vs the J-E-T-S….Jets, Jets, Jets
    Giants (-2.5) at home vs the Panthers

    Final Scores

    Jet 31-Browns 30
    Giants 19-Panthers 16
    Patriots 17-Steelers 14
    Cowboys 20-Bengals 17

    SC…Cowboys, Steelers (41), Brown, Giants>>>2-2
    AlJ….cowboys(49) patriots browns panthers>>>2-2
    csg….Bengals, Pats, Browns, Giants(38)>>>>>>2-2
    Doug..Bengals, Steelers(36), Browns, Giants>>>1-3
    Fast Eddie…Bengals, Pats, Browns(38), Panthers>1-3
    Suitcase Jake…Bengels-Steelers(43)-Browns-Giants>1-3
    Liz Cherokee…Bengals, Patriots, Jets, Giants(38)>3-1
    Bobf….Bengals,Pats(34), Browns, Giants>>>>2-2

    Clarification-final point spread on the Pats-Steelers game was Steelers -3 that would make a pick of either team a win by the rules. My understanding of betting is that you get the point spread at the time you place a bet. So this game will go by the spread at the time this contest is posted that at the time was Pats -1.5.

    CUMULATIVE STANDING

    Doug………..…….2-6
    Suitcase Jake….….4-4
    Bobf……………..…5-3 (62.5% success-second place)
    SC………………….4-4
    csg……………..….3-5
    AlJ… ……………..4-4
    Fast Eddie………. 3-5
    Liz Cherokee……3-1 (75% success-current leader)

    If you haven’t figured it out yet picking these games with the spread is really hard.
    Congratulations to Liz Cherokee. Showing faith in the home teams and carving out a clear win.
    Stick with it, this is gonna be fun.

  2. ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR WEEK 3 WILD CARD GAME??? says

    Any suggestions for the week 3 wild card game????

  3. NFL PICK 4- WEEK 3 says

    NFL PICK 4- WEEK 3

    Rules
    Each week the games for the Pats, Jets and Giants will be listed along with the points spreads. In addition one “Wild Card” Game will be listed.

    Pretty simple just pick four teams, one from each game USING THE POINT SPREAD. No ties, no over/under if there is a tie score USING THE POINT SPREAD you get credit for the win.

    Suitcase Jake Tie Breaker- pick the total score from ANY of the four games. Closest to come to that score in the event of a tie wins. If that does not resolve the tie then the HIGHEST of the point totals wins.

    Like in the Pick 6 change your picks any time for any reason up to game time.

    WEEKLY WINNER TAKE ALL-Each week there will be a winner
    SEASON STANDINGS-cumulative results will be tallied. Current leader based on winning percentage will be identified. Current leader is Liz Cherokee @ 75% correct.

    WEEK 3 Games

    Ravens (-3) at the Patriots
    Bengals (-5) at the Jets
    Giant (-1) at home vs the Cowboys
    Wild Card
    Bills (-6) at the Dolphins

  4. Patriots (43), Bengals, Cowboys, Bills

  5. Ravens, Bengals, Cowboys, Bills (47)

  6. Suitcase Jake says

    Ravens Bengals Cowboys (44) Dolphins

  7. Pats, bengals, cowboys, bills 50

  8. Ravens (44), bengals, cowboys, bills

  9. csg Pats 38, Bengals, Giant, Bills

    In future weeks we should consider adjusting any even pt spreads a half point to ensure there are no ties. With only picking 4 games per week. we are going to end up with a lot of ties.

  10. Suitcase Jake says

    CSG…. Good Idea …. 1/2 points eliminate ties….
    Thank you Shawn for the NEW Comm. Picks Location … Great Spot … that makes it so EASY TO FIND !!!!!! Great Idea !!!!!!

  11. All right then we have a proposal on the board and it’s been seconded.
    Like the csg Poll Bonus, csg as the author should be the one to stipulate how it works. Minus or plus a half. You make the call. I assume it would always apply unless of course the published spread is already fractional.
    We’ll start it for the week 4 games.

  12. Doug;
    For week 4, might i suggest the chiefs and buccaneers? Bucs favored by 2.5. But thats probably gonna change 5 times before game time. Personally, i’d take chiefs on that one but…
    Both coming off a loss. Both pissed.
    That could go either way imo.

  13. NFL PICK 4- WEEK 3 RESULTS says

    NFL PICK 4- WEEK 3 RESULTS

    Ravens (-3) at the Patriots
    Bengals (-5) at the Jets
    Giant (-1) at home vs the Cowboys
    Wild Card
    Bills (-6) at the Dolphins

    Ravens 37-Pats 26
    Bengals 27-Jets 12
    Cowboys 23-Giants 16
    Dolphins 21- Bills 19

    SC….Patriots (43), Bengals, Cowboys, Bills>>>>>>2-2
    Doug…Ravens, Bengals, Cowboys, Bills (47)>>>>>3-1
    Jake…Ravens Bengals Cowboys (44) Dolphins>>>4-0
    Fast Eddie…Pats, bengals, cowboys, bills 50>>>>>2-2
    Bobf… Ravens (44), bengals, cowboys, bills>>>>>>3-1
    csg… Pats 38, Bengals, Giant, Bills>>>>>>>>>>>>1-3

    WINNER TAKE ALL WEEK 3>>>>Suitcase Jake

    CUMULATIVE STANDINGS

    Winner Take All

    2 Suitcase Jake
    1 Liz Cherokee

    Season Long Records

    Bobf……………..…8-4
    Suitcase Jake….….8-4
    SC………………….6-6
    Fast Eddie………. 5-7
    Doug………..…….5-7
    csg……………..….4-8
    AlJ… ……………..4-4
    Liz Cherokee…..…3-1

    NFL Pick 4 Notes:
    -Suitcase Jake and Bobf the current full time participant leaders
    -Week 4 Wild Card game as requested by Bobf will be Chiefs(-2.5) at the Bucs a Sunday night game. Good choice!
    -It’s early but participants need to consider the minimum number of games to participate in for the season long championship. Feedback please!
    -Mike Florio and Chris Simms, both appearing on NBC NFL pre game shows are nationally recognized as experts on the NFL and do picks weekly of all the games. Even they struggle to pick games against the spread and hover around 50%. Making our two leaders that have picked all three weeks so far with a success rate of 67% all the more impressive. Can they keep it up???

  14. NFL PICK 4- WEEK 4 says

    NFL PICK 4- WEEK 4

    Rules
    Each week the games for the Pats, Jets and Giants will be listed along with the points spreads. In addition one “Wild Card” Game will be listed.

    Pretty simple just pick four teams, one from each game USING THE POINT SPREAD. No ties, no over/under if there is a tie score USING THE POINT SPREAD you get credit for the win.

    Suitcase Jake Tie Breaker- pick the total score from ANY of the four games. Closest to come to that score in the event of a tie wins. If that does not resolve the tie then the HIGHEST of the point totals wins.

    Like in the Pick 6 change your picks any time for any reason up to game time.

    WEEKLY WINNER TAKE ALL-Each week there will be a winner. Current leader is Suitcase Jake with two wins in three attempts.
    SEASON STANDINGS-cumulative results will be tallied. Current full time leaders Suitcase Jake and Bobf with a 67% success rate.

    Week 4 Games

    Steelers (-3) at home vs the Jets
    Packers (-9.5) at home vs the Pats
    Chiefs (-1) at the Bucs (provided by Bobf)
    Giants (-3) at home vs the Bears

    Doug, Bobf, Suitcase Jake Pats first four game results side bet update.

    Suitcase Jake 0-4-he’s out
    Bobf 1-3 and correctly identified the Steelers win.
    Doug 1-3 and incorrectly predicted the Ravens game as a win.

    Both Doug and Bobf predicted a Packers loss. Therefore Bobf wins the side bet having correctly identified the Steelers game.
    Well done Bobf you know football as well and local short track racing.

  15. Week 4 Picks
    Steelers
    Packers
    Chiefs
    Giants (40)

  16. Hmmm, what to do. Seems pretty clear it’s necessary to go against the grain on at least one pick to win. Liz got her win in week 2 picking the Jets. Suitcase Jake picking the Dolphins in week 3.
    Anyone gutsy enough to pick the Pats to cover against the Packers for their pull it out of your ass week 4 pick?
    Hoyer hasn’t won an NFL game in 11 starts but the Packers run defense not great. Who knows maybe Rogers will be bored and get careless.

  17. csg steelers. pats 40. chiefs. giants

    Hoyer comes out to Foo fighters hero

  18. Suitcase Jake says

    Steelers, Packers, Bucs, Giants 44

  19. Steelers, Pats, Chiefs 50, Bears

  20. Teaser you Doug you.
    I agree, usually some kind of upset somewhere, but which one? Hmmmm
    My heart says chiefs, so I’m gonna go with bucs as my upset. So….
    steelers, packers, bucs,(44) giants

  21. NFL PICK 4- WEEK 4 Update-"NEW ENTRANTS WANTED says

    NFL PICK 4- WEEK 4 Update

    SC…Steelers, Packers, Chiefs, Giants (40)
    csg… steelers. pats 40. chiefs. giants
    Suitcase Jake…Steelers, Packers, Bucs, Giants 44
    Fast Eddie…Steelers, Pats, Chiefs 50, Bears
    Bobf….steelers, packers, bucs,(44) giants
    Doug…Jets(32), Packers, Bucs, Giants

  22. New England sans Mac Jones at Lambeau Stadium early on had all the makings of a blow out. Not so fast. The chatter now is leaning Pats to beat the spread with just maybe an interesting game going into the 4th quarter.
    Congratulations to the UCONN Huskies beating the Fresno State Bulldogs who were picked to win by 23 points. Perhaps UCONN getting the crap beat out of them by national powerhouses is starting to pay off.
    The Kraft’s may want to keep an eye on how Jim Mora is progressing trying to bring UCONN back from football purgatory. Defense was outstanding and the offense while anemic was creative.

  23. Normally I’d stay away from a game with that big of spread (talking about pats packers).
    I’m sure most people think the way to be competitive is to keep ball on ground ala harris/stevenson. I’m sure pack will be ready for that. Which makes me think pats will do something different. What? I don’t know if they have many other options to consider to stay in it.
    My bigger concern, not so much mac being out, but Lawrence Guy out. They can get around Meyers out imo. I still think pack covers, but like racing, its football, where anything can happen. 1 key injury can change the whole complexion of game as we all know. Crap shoot.

  24. Good commentary.
    Pats did over perform in 2020 against good teams like the Chiefs and Bills and in 2021 against the Cowboys and Bucs. I’d be more suspicious of a Belichick team finding a way to keep it under the spread then most other coaches.
    I’m thinking the Pat’s do go with the run game plus dink and dunk. If the Packers shut down the run completely Katie bar the door the Pack covers and more because Hoyer is not a down field passer.
    One thing the Pat’s aren’t doing that is driving me nuts is pre snap movement and play action.

  25. J-E-T-S……Jets, Jets, Jets

  26. NFL PICK 4- WEEK 4 RESULTS says

    NFL PICK 4- WEEK 4 RESULTS

    Steelers (-3) at home vs the Jets>>>>>Jets 24-Steelers 20
    Packers (-9.5) at home vs the Pats>>>>Packers 27-Pats 24
    Chiefs (-1) at the Bucs >>>>>>>>>>>>>Chiefs 41-Bucs 31
    Giants (-3) at home vs the Bears>>>>>>Giants 20-Bears 12

    SC…Steelers, Packers, Chiefs, Giants (40)>>>>>>>>2-2
    csg… steelers. pats 40. chiefs. giants>>>>>>>>>>>>3-1
    Suitcase Jake…Steelers, Packers, Bucs, Giants 44>>1-3
    Fast Eddie…Steelers, Pats, Chiefs 50, Bears>>>>>>2-2
    Bobf….steelers, packers, bucs,(44) giants>>>>>>>>>1-3
    Doug…Jets(32), Packers, Bucs, Giants>>>>>>>>>>>2-2

    WINNER TAKE ALL WEEK 4>>>>csg!!!

    CUMULATIVE STANDINGS

    Winner Take All

    2 Suitcase Jake
    1 Liz Cherokee
    1 csg

    Season Long Records

    Bobf……………..…9-7
    Suitcase Jake….….9-7
    SC………………….8-8
    Fast Eddie………. 7-9
    csg……………..….7-9
    Doug………..…….7-9

    Inactives
    AlJ… ……………..4-4
    Liz Cherokee…..…3-1

    NFL Pick 4 Week 4 Notes:
    -csg roars back into contention in the year long standings
    -Despite Suitcase Jakes contempt for a Brady-less Patriot team at some point he may have to pick the Patriots
    -Doug the only player to pick the Jets and blows a golden opportunity to out perform putting too much faith in Brady and too little in the Patriots.

  27. The slam dunk packers to cover, third string qb for pats, and right to the end of overtime! Great entertaining game! I thought originally that game would be over by halftime!
    I outfoxed myself on bucs. Outplayed in every aspect by mahomes and co. Ouch for me.
    Bills do it again! A late decision by harbaugh that i bet he wishes he had back this morning. Mahomes knows how to fall, jackson knows how to fall, Hurts knows how to fall, on and on. Allen? Takes a tackle like a back. How long before he gets seriously hurt?
    Looks like over abundance of caution now that the neurologist that cleared Tua was fired. Look for the league to really be tough on coming back from any type of head injury. A good thing.
    So who backs up Zappe? Turns out Meyers but he was injured too! Whew! On to week 5…..

  28. NFL Week 5 Wild Card Game Choice Wanted! says

    Possible week 5 wild card games.

    Cowboys at the Rams
    Raiders at the Chiefs
    Bengals at the Ravens
    A fourth choice not listed???

    Anyone want to pick one?

  29. Suitcase Jake says

    Bengals vs Ravens should be a tight game ….

  30. Also tight looks to be the Titans and Redsk…oh sorry, I meant Commanders. Seriously, 2.5 pts Titans on Fed Ex field.
    All choices listed good Doug. Probably guess the winners, and it appears to be all about the spreads. Feeling lucky guys and gals?

  31. NFL PICK 4- WEEK 5 says

    NFL PICK 4- WEEK 5

    Rules
    Each week the games for the Pats, Jets and Giants will be listed along with the points spreads. In addition one “Wild Card” Game will be listed.

    Pretty simple just pick four teams, one from each game USING THE POINT SPREAD. No ties, no over/under if there is a tie score USING THE POINT SPREAD you get credit for the win.

    Suitcase Jake Tie Breaker- pick the total score from ANY of the four games. Closest to come to that score in the event of a tie wins. If that does not resolve the tie then the HIGHEST of the point totals for ONLY THE TIED PLAYERS wins.

    Like in the Pick 6 change your picks any time for any reason up to game time.

    WEEKLY WINNER TAKE ALL-Each week there will be a winner. Current leader is Suitcase Jake with two wins.
    SEASON STANDINGS-cumulative results will be tallied. A season long champion will be crowned based on winning percentage with a minimum participation rate to be determined at a later date.

    Week 5 games

    Packers (-8) at home vs the Giants
    Pats (-3) at home vs the Lions
    Dolphins (-3) at the Jets
    Ravens (-3) at home vs the Bengals

    Team offense and defense rankings
    Packers 6th and 5th
    Giants 22nd and 15th
    Pats 18th and 19th
    Lions First and Last
    Dolphins 10th and 28th
    Jets 8th and 10th
    Ravens 12th and 30th
    Bengals 16th and 11th

    Doug….Packers, Pats(39), Dolphins, Bengals

  32. 🥤🥤🥤Liz Cherokee 🥤🥤🥤 says

    Glad I found you boys again! Be sure to hit your favorite liquor store and stock up for a long weekend of revelry! Bottoms up!

    Packers, Patriots, Jets (43), Ravens

  33. Packers, Lions, Jets, Ravens (58)

  34. Fast Eddie says

    Pats, jets, packers, ravens 50

  35. Doug;

    Packers, pats (41), dolphins, bengals
    Thanks!

  36. Doug, sorry.
    Revised…. Pats (51). Not 41.
    Thanks.

  37. Suitcase Jake says

    Packers Lions Dolphins Bengals-45

  38. NFL Pick 4-Week 5-Pickers Roundup says

    NFL Pick 4-Week 5-Pickers Roundup

    Doug….Packers, Pats(39), Dolphins, Bengals
    Liz Cherokee…Packers, Patriots, Jets (43), Ravens
    SC…Packers, Lions, Jets, Ravens (58)
    Fast Eddie…packers, Pats, jets, , ravens 50
    Bobf… Packers, pats (51), dolphins, bengals
    Suitcase Jake…Packers Lions Dolphins Bengals-45

    Welcome back Liz!

  39. csg NYG41, Pats, MIA, Baltimore

  40. NFL Pick 4-Week 5-RESULTS says

    NFL Pick 4-Week 5-RESULTS

    Packers (-8) at home vs the Giants>>>Giants 27-Packers 22
    Pats (-3) at home vs the Lions>>>>>>>Pats 29-Lions 0
    Dolphins (-3) at the Jets>>>>>>>>>>>>Jets 40-Dolphins 17
    Ravens (-3) at home vs the Bengals>>>Ravens 19-Bengals 17
    *******Bengals lose the game but covered on the point spread

    Doug….Packers, Pats(39), Dolphins, Bengals (2-2) (-10)
    Liz Cherokee…Packers, Patriots, Jets (43), Ravens (2-2) (-14)
    SC…Packers, Lions, Jets, Ravens (58) (1-3)
    Fast Eddie…packers, Pats, jets, , ravens 50 (2-2) (+14)
    Bobf… Packers, pats (51), dolphins, bengals (2-2) (+22)
    Suitcase Jake…Packers Lions Dolphins Bengals-45 (1-3)
    csg NYG41, Pats, MIA, Baltimore (2-2) (8) WINNER!!!!

    Winner Take All

    2 Suitcase Jake
    2 csg
    1 Liz Cherokee

    Season Long Records

    Liz Cherokee…..…5-3 (Leader based on 62.5% success rate)
    Bobf……………..…11-9
    Suitcase Jake….….10-10
    SC………………….9-11
    Fast Eddie………. 9-11
    csg……………..….9-11
    Doug………..…….9-11

    Inactive
    AlJ… ……………..4-4

  41. Suitcase Jake says

    Just goes to show … The BOYS in Vegas really know how to set the spreads… It’s hard to win against the spread…if you parlay bets you can add 3 or 6 or 9 pts to the spread depending on the amount of teams you pick ..
    even with that it’s still hard to beat Vegas….

  42. Boy that’s the truth. Ponder this if you will and respond if you have any thoughts on the subject.
    Switch the rules to just straight up winner for a week or two to see how it goes. Turns out that’s pretty hard as well especially considering all the upsets this year.
    Straight up winner would have looked something like this.
    Doug 1-3
    Liz 3-1
    SC 2-2
    Eddie 3-1
    Bobf 1-3
    Jake 0-4
    csg 3-1

    In this case csg would still have won based on points but there would be more separation in the scores without the points factor in play.
    My vote would be to try it but someone else should weigh in first.

  43. Suitcase Jake says

    I AGREE …. TO pick the Winner is Tough enough…. And make it a PICK 6 like the Racing Pick’ems….no Mulligans…. Pick 6 Winners ….that Doug puts in there…Just like the Pick’em… Tweak it as we go…. Great….

  44. It’s interesting Only 2 people are Better than 500 against the spread.If we we were betting money every week, the house would be winning. I don’t think anyone has a perfect week nor anyone has the golden goose egg. Personally I like picking against the spread. If we go straight up I and I think others would probably just look at the spread and pick the favorites. Whether it would yield a winning pick set of not, it would certainly require less thinking and make it easier. If we were picking straight up last week, I would have picked gb. I didn’t think the gmen would win outright.

  45. I don’t no SJ, what do you think? Csg raises a good point. I was initially in favor of straight up but on the other hand the spreads make the decisions all that more agonizing.

  46. Suitcase Jake says

    Many people don’t quite understand the points spreads…. So in the interest of growing the Football Pick’em to it’s full potential … I believe have it pick a winner for each game .. Pick 6…. my humble opinion…other’s can weigh in also with their thoughts.. Just like the Racing Pick’em we tweaked it as we went along and can up with what we thought was good rules …maybe pick 5 winners and have one game against the spread…?

  47. Fast Eddie says

    It doesn’t matter either way to me, I’m picking based on what I think favors the pats in a given week. I don’t really look at the spread much. I guess it’s good that I don’t place sports bets!! 🙂

  48. Personally, even though im not doing great, i like picking against the spread. Just like the football card. I think it adds an element.
    For example, if our wild card game this week is the bills at the chiefs, and bills are -2.5, well, that’s a beauty in my book!
    Btw, while I have your ears, how about a 1 point bonus for picking the season points champion in the finale at Martinsville? tight possibility of 3.
    Anyway, I appreciate the effort and suggestions you guys put into all of this and enjoy playing!
    thanks!

  49. Was hoping for a mandate but got a split decision. Not just split but good points raised on all sides.
    First order of business. Unless there is an objection I will incorporate the Bobf season champion -1 point bonus in for the finale at Martinsville along with the csg -1 point pole bonus.
    Csg won in week 4 on the strength of picking the Pat’s over the Packers. I have to believe without the big spread neither he nor Fast Eddie would have made that choice. That sort of picking skill needs to be in play and the only way to do it is with the spread. Two games coming up in week 6 with significant spreads makes timing for straight up picking not ideal.
    I’d like to increase participation as well. This is a racing site after all and maybe after racing concludes and snow is flying we can attract some new participants. Going up against the Sizzler and World Series I’m grateful for the participation we have. Wish AIJ would consider getting back in the game.
    For now maybe if it ain’t broke why try fixing it. Suitcase Jakes idea of total points for a tie breaker was brilliant and has easily resolved our two ties. Surprisingly 3 weeks won with a clear winner.

  50. Suitcase Jake says

    Bonus idea is great for Champ pick …Point spreads are also fine. as long as regular folks understand what a points spread is .. not on crackers… LOL
    maybe a little line in the rules about what it means to be a +3 verses a – 3 ..
    a Plus +3 is the favorite to win by 3 or more..etc etc – 3 is the underdog they can win and also lose by 1,2,or 3 points and you win .. if it’s a tie both picks Win…

  51. NFL PICK 4- WEEK 6-NEW PLAYERS WANTED!!! says

    NFL PICK 4- WEEK 6

    Rules
    Each week the games for the Pats, Jets and Giants will be listed along with the points spreads. In addition one “Wild Card” Game will be listed.

    Pretty simple just pick four teams, one from each game USING THE POINT SPREAD. No ties, no over/under if there is a tie score USING THE POINT SPREAD you get credit for the win.

    Suitcase Jake Tie Breaker- pick the total score from ANY of the four games. Closest to come to that score in the event of a tie wins. If that does not resolve the tie then the HIGHEST of the point totals for ONLY THE TIED PLAYERS wins.

    Like in the Pick 6 change your picks any time for any reason up to game time.

    WEEKLY WINNER TAKE ALL-Each week there will be a winner. Current leader is Suitcase Jake with two wins.
    SEASON STANDINGS-cumulative results will be tallied. A season long champion will be crowned based on winning percentage with a minimum participation rate to be determined at a later date.

    Week 6 games

    Browns(-2-5) at home vs the Pats
    Packers (-7.5) at home vs the Jets
    Ravens (-5.5) at the Giants
    Wild Card…Bills (-2.5) at the Chiefs

    COME ONE COME ALL THIS IS THE EASIEST PICK CONTEST EVER.
    You can literally flip a coin for each game and have the same chance as the most knowledgeable football fan. Confused about the points, not to worry.
    We list the favorite as the first team in the summary. Example: in the Ravens/Giants game if your pick is the Ravens they must win by 6 points or more for you to get credit for the win. Pick the Giants they can lose by 6 or fewer points and you still get credit for the win. Any tie using the point spread you win.
    Go ahead and try. You’ll find you enjoy following the scores more having some skin in the games.

  52. Browns, Packers, Giants, Chiefs (58)

  53. Capt. Mike Qbvious says

    Patriots, Packers, Giants, Chiefs (65)

  54. Pats, packers, ravens, chiefs (47)

  55. 🍸🍸🍸 Liz Cherokee 🍸🍸🍸 says

    Howdy Ho Boys! I hope you are all doing well and keeping your bottoms up! 🍻🍻🍻

    Patriots (40oz), Packers, Ravens, Chiefs

  56. NFL PICK 4- WEEK 6 ROUNDUP says

    NFL PICK 4- WEEK 6 ROUNDUP

    SC….Browns, Packers, Giants, Chiefs (58)
    Capt. Mike Obvious….Patriots, Packers, Giants, Chiefs (65)
    Fast Eddie…Pats, packers, ravens, chiefs (47)
    Liz Cherokee…Patriots (40oz), Packers, Ravens, Chiefs
    Doug…Pats(38), Jets, Giants, Bills

    Welcome Capt. Mike Obvious!!!

  57. Suitcase Jake says

    Browns 44 Packers Ravens Bills

  58. Doug;

    Pats, giants(45), packers, and gotta take chiefs.
    Give u credit, you sticking with Bills, and honestly? I hope this game doesn’t disappoint because on paper, this game should be a dogfight. Crapshoot bet for sure! Good luck to all!

  59. It’s sad to see. Tom Brady leaving the Pat’s has damaged Suitcase Jake and his record perfect picking against the team. Good for the rest of us since he has a tendency to be a leader whenever we pick anything.
    I’ll admit it. As a Pats fan, seeing the team get stomped buy Buffalo the last two times they played has me buffaloed into thinking they are the best team in the NFL. It follows therefore they will beat the Chiefs and relatively handily.
    Has anyone said it? The Pats played a near perfect game last week didn’t they? Was it a fluke or are then getting better? Is there a QB controversy cause I have to tell you I’ve got a touch of Zappe fever. Giants and Jets showing signs of life as well so picking against them no longer a safe bet.
    If you have more then a casual interest in NFL football and enjoy the opinions of sport geeks consider dialing up Nick Wright on Youtube. Especially the show First Things First. Wright is not any more accurate then any other pundit but he’s inoffensively arrogant, a diehard Chiefs fan and at times hilarious. Like in doing his weekly tiers of teams this week sighting the Packers as a QB away from being a contender. No sports geek has more sports minutia crammed into his head that he can recall at any time and self describes as having a bit of a gambling addiction making him far too emotionally invested in results that adds to his color.
    Unlike before, Mr Courchesne has created a football safe space so no worries on intruding into a racing discussion. Bobf has done some good analysis in the past and clearly knows the NFL well. If you or anyone else cares to do a little more in depth commentary on the games coming up I can say I’m a fan of reading them.

  60. chris gallagher says

    csg pats 40 packers giants bills

  61. NFL PICK 4- WEEK 6 ROUNDUP says

    NFL PICK 4- WEEK 6 ROUNDUP

    SC….Browns, Packers, Giants, Chiefs (58)
    Capt. Mike Obvious….Patriots, Packers, Giants, Chiefs (65)
    Fast Eddie…Pats, packers, ravens, chiefs (47)
    Liz Cherokee…Patriots (40oz), Packers, Ravens, Chiefs
    Doug…Pats(38), Jets, Giants, Bills
    Suitcase Jake…Browns 44 Packers Ravens Bills
    Bobf… Pats, giants(45), packers, chiefs
    csg,,, pats 40 packers giants bills

  62. Doug;
    The Zappe debate has reached an “almost” fever pitch here in s.e. Mass
    We should remember though, that the game against the Lyons was custom built by Pats coaches to protect Zappe. Mostly a ground game, short throws with the occasional downfield throw, all designed to protect Zappe and the football. Zappe was no where near the NFL until this year. Great for him! However, I feel game plan in effect last week is not going to do it against top tier teams.
    What you say? I’m a Zappe detractor? Nope.
    Not at all. But I feel Mac this year, was starting to open things up. Some things work, some things dont. That game work and design, tried and practiced in mac’s games, evaluated during games, to go against the higher top teams imo. What worked, what did not work. I do think Bill sticks with Mac when he is ready. Mac more entrenched right now in the coaches vision for the “system”. However, I hope Zappe gets more chances, and at least supplants Hoyer as backup. (Never been an “in the game “ Hoyer fan, as great a mentor as the staff and fellow players say that he is) My greatest impression with Zappe in Lyon’s game, was his poise in the pocket. Yes, our guys did a great job of keeping him out of harms way, but Zappe did his part by not throwing ball all over the place if play broke down.
    I for one, certainly hope Zappe starts Sunday, and I think he will. I’d love to see a little more body of work from Zappe, particularly against some better teams. After all, last Sunday was just one game. But, for a dismal outlook that I had for the Pats this season, a week 6 quarterback competition is the medicine I need, at least for the next few weeks. Is Zappe the answer? I don’t know, too early to tell for me, but, Interest for Pats renewed!!

  63. Suitcase Jake says

    Browns running game … too much to handle for Pats,…..
    jets and giants come back to reality….
    Bills defense is the difference in KC …

  64. So you’re saying Jones is QB1 and Zappe fever should be more like the sniffles. I’d agree with that. The “opening up” observation spot on.
    Fever or not we should all want to see Zappe today to allow Jones more time to get closer to 100%. He isn’t that mobile in the first place, there’s been some accuracy issues this year, he’s just not good enough at this stage to overcome physical limitations successfully.
    This is why Zappe playing today is a really good thing in my view. Like the Lions the Browns defense is not that good especially against the run. It’s another game perfectly suited to a novice QB. Jones is QB1 but seeing a young backup develop especially winning at the same time is classic making lemonade out of lemons. Chatter has it that Jones is not happy with the coaching and play calling this year, pouting a bit so this may light a fire under him. What Zappe does have that makes him so much fun is escapability and can make things happen on the run. Not particularly fast but quick. Watching his college tape he is a gunslinger for sure if you turn him loose.
    Agholor out today, rookie speedster Thornton in and may get more targets. Maybe a long one if Zappe can get it to him.
    No clue about the Jets and Giants. Pats and Bills my best bets for wins today and fairly handily.
    Thanks Bobf!

  65. NFL PICK 4- WEEK 6 RESULTS says

    NFL PICK 4- WEEK 6 RESULTS

    Browns(-2-5) at home vs the Pats>>>>Pats 38-Browns 15
    Packers (-7.5) at home vs the Jets>>>Jets 27 -Packers 10
    Ravens (-5.5) at the Giants>>>>>>>>Giants 24-Ravens 20
    Wild Card…Bills (-2.5) at the Chiefs>>>>Bills 24 – Chiefs 20

    SC….Browns, Packers, Giants, Chiefs (58)>>>>>>>(1-3)
    Capt. Mike …Patriots, Packers, Giants, Chiefs (65)>>(2-2)
    Fast Eddie…Pats, packers, ravens, chiefs (47)>>>>(1-3)
    Liz C…Patriots (40oz), Packers, Ravens, Chiefs>>>(1-3)
    Doug…Pats(38), Jets, Giants, Bills>>>>>>>>>>>>>(4-0)
    Suitcase Jake…Browns 44 Packers Ravens Bills>>(1-3)
    Bobf… Pats, giants(45), packers, chiefs>>>>>>>>>(2-2)
    csg,,, pats 40 packers giants bills>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(3-1)

    Winner Take All

    2 Suitcase Jake
    2 csg
    1 Liz Cherokee
    1 Doug

    Season Long Records

    Bobf……………..…13-11
    Doug………..…….13-11
    csg……………..….12-12
    Liz Cherokee…..…6-6
    Captain Mike Obvious…2-2
    Suitcase Jake….….11-13
    SC………………….10-14
    Fast Eddie………. 10-14

    Inactive
    AlJ… ……………..4-4

  66. Live by the spread, die by the spread.
    Great call on Bills Doug.
    I thought mahomes would come back. My brother said no way, mahomes will throw an interception. If mahomes has a flaw, thats it.
    “Really” I scoffed? Yep said he, I’ll bet a dinner on it, winner picks the place. “Your on”!
    Looks like I gotta dust off the old wallet….

  67. Suitcase Jake says

    Nice Job Doug… 4 – 0 is hard against the spread…
    I guess the jets and Giants are for real…
    Green Bay losing at Home is just unreal …. Something is really wrong… I guess Davante Adams was Super important as a Deep threat and without the deep threat in Green Bay,… They are just squeezing down on the Packers receivers giving Rogers less people to throw the ball to….

  68. I certainly appreciate the mentions on the 4-0 but we all know against the spread it’s half dumb ass luck. Confidence on the Pats game 4 out of 5. Bills confidence 3 out of five. No clue on the Giants so a home team pick. The only reason I took the Jets was nobody had taken them at the point I picked and with the points I had a 50% shot if I had thrown a dart at a board.
    Don’t care if it’s dumb ass luck of not I’m tied with Bobf. My pick along with csg to win the season long championship if we get that far.

    Oh yah there’s a QB controversy in New England and I don’t care who says otherwise.
    Any thoughts on who should start if Jones is well enough for the Bears game???

  69. I think zappe should start. He is on a roll.
    No knock against jones, but his injury was significant. Give him a little more time, let him get fully mobile and healed. And he may learn something from sidelines. ( not sarcasm)
    In my opinion, 2 bonuses to that.
    Zappe gets more valuable playing time, and it will be fun to watch Bill, for another week, being aggravated to the hilt fielding all those press questions of “who starts against the Bears coach”!
    Right on Suitcase. Cheese getting moldy in Green Bay?
    Denver not getting ahead with Wilson. No “i” in team I guess. Needs more around him in new system. Could it be a first year young coach part of issue? Probably more than that, like missing pieces….
    Steelers beat bucs??? Hmm, bucs have lost last 3 after 2-0 start.
    A story wherever you look……

  70. First of all congratulations to Doug on the perfect pickem. I do believe that is the first one in our group. Since perfection has already been achieved, I am shooting to be the first with the Golden Goose Egg. I do find myself in a tough spot in these pick ems. I have trouble picking against the patriots and something feels entirely wrong about picking the J E T S. So I really need the Jets to go back to their losing ways…..and they kind of look like they may have turned the corner. My fantasy team is so bad I am thinking of picking up Zack wilson for a start.

    Pats QB situation. I am onboard with letting Mac Jones get completely healthy before starting again. Initially, they said 4 to 6 weeks. It has been two weeks. From what I have heard these high ankle sprains can be worse than a clean break. They tend stay around and players come back thinking its healed and reinjure themselves. The one thing that I think Zappe has going for him is the Pats have been playing some of their easier opponents recently. So, I think he is probably looking a little better than he actually is. Anyway, it’s been fun to watch.

  71. That’s a great point about the two weeks it seems like it’s been longer.
    It’s a problem of riches. Two pretty good QB’s on rookie contracts. I agree, start Zappe. At least until he starts to look a little like a smallish, later round rookie draft pick which so far is not the case. The receivers especially like him since he spreads the ball around so well.. Then when he stumbles and he will put Mac in to show he’s the real deal with a full tank of motivation. Having been shown he was never anointed starter despite the first round status and Bama pedigree.

  72. Suitcase Jake says

    will History repeat itself = Brady vs Bledsoe – Zapper = Jones LOL
    Bill I think we have seen this movie once before….

  73. NFL PICK 4- WEEK 7 says

    NFL PICK 4- WEEK 7

    Rules
    Each week the games for the Pats, Jets and Giants will be listed along with the points spreads. In addition one “Wild Card” Game will be listed.

    Pretty simple just pick four teams, one from each game USING THE POINT SPREAD. No ties, no over/under if there is a tie score USING THE POINT SPREAD you get credit for the win.

    Suitcase Jake Tie Breaker- pick the total score from ANY of the four games. Closest to come to that score in the event of a tie wins. If that does not resolve the tie then the HIGHEST of the point totals for ONLY THE TIED PLAYERS wins.

    Like in the Pick 6 change your picks any time for any reason up to game time.

    WEEKLY WINNER TAKE ALL-Each week there will be a winner.
    SEASON STANDINGS-cumulative results will be tallied. A season long champion will be crowned based on winning percentage with a minimum participation rate to be determined at a later date.
    Platinum Deuce Award-at the end of the regular season should one player drop a deuce by accumulating the most weekly wins as well as have the highest winning percentage in games picked they will win the coveted PLATINUM DEUCE AWARD.

    Week 7 games

    Jaguars (-3) host the Giants
    Broncos (-1) host the Jets
    Chiefs (-2.5) @ the Forty-Niners
    Pats (-8) host the Bears (Monday Night Game)

    Doug….Giants, Jets(36), Chiefs, Bears

  74. Giants, Jets, Chiefs, Patriots (49)

  75. Pats, Jaguars, Broncos, 49ers (47)

  76. csg giants jets chiefs pats 34

  77. Capt. Mike Qbvious says

    Jaguars, Broncos (37), Chiefs, Patriots

  78. Suitcase Jake says

    giants [44] jets 49er’s Patsies

  79. Packers (41), jets, pats, giants.

  80. NFL PICK 4- WEEK 7-PLAYER FLAGGED says

    Flag on Suitcase Jake for unsportsmanlike conduct………taunting.

  81. NFL PICK 4- WEEK 7 ROSTER-ATTN: Bobf says

    NFL PICK 4- WEEK 7 ROSTER

    Doug….Giants, Jets(36), Chiefs, Bears
    SC…Giants, Jets, Chiefs, Patriots (49)
    Fast Eddie…Giants, Jets, Chiefs, Patriots (49)
    csg giants jets chiefs pats 34
    Capt. Mike Qbvious …Jaguars, Broncos (37), Chiefs, Patriots
    Suitcase Jake…giants [44] jets 49er’s Patsies
    Bobf… ****Packers (41)****, jets, pats, giants. ????

  82. Suitcase Jake says

    Lol no crying in Football.. Bobf the packers are off the cheese board …

  83. csg revised. giants jets 49ers pats 34

    probably going to regret it but the CMC trade has me thinking differently

  84. Thanks doug. My head must have been full of anticipation for prepping for trip to Seekonk when I posted that! Should have read,

    chiefs (41), Jets, Giants, Patriots.

    Sorry you had to do extra work on my account, my apologies!

  85. NFL PICK 4- WEEK 7 ROSTER UPDATE says

    NFL PICK 4- WEEK 7 ROSTER

    Doug….Giants, Jets(36), Chiefs, Bears
    SC…Giants, Jets, Chiefs, Patriots (49)
    Fast Eddie…Giants, Jets, Chiefs, Patriots (49)
    csg revised. giants jets 49ers pats 34
    Capt. Mike Qbvious …Jaguars, Broncos (37), Chiefs, Patriots
    Suitcase Jake…giants [44] jets 49er’s Patsies
    Bobf… Giants, Jets, chiefs (41), Patriots

    Well this in interesting. A banner number of players positioned for a perfect week. The only potential fly in the ointment the red headed step child that picked DA BEARS to cover.
    Interesting sub plot. N’Keal Harry coming off injured reserve and may play in his first game with the Bears. Sounds familiar doesn’t it? Could he have a banner night helping to defeat the team the spurned him?

  86. Red headed my a….
    Great call on da bears doug.
    That was painful.

  87. Sure yippy for me. I assure you that wasn’t the plan. The plan was to get separation from the rest of the picks but for the Bears to cover in a Pats win not for the Pats to get embarrassed in a loss. The plan was for the Pats to have a legitimate shot at the playoffs now with improved play, better coaching and a conference that is not as dominate as predicted at the beginning of the year. The game plan to take care of business last night then go into a huge game with the Jets next week to prove the Pats and not the Jets are for real. The plan was not to trade anyone, stand pat and continue to improve. Well that didn’t happen.
    The Pats lay about as big an egg possible before a home crowd and national audience and they’re back to the bumbling, poorly coached bunch of question marks they were at the beginning of the year. No strike that………worse. Now with a legitimate QB controversy with neither guy showing they are QB1 caliber.
    Trade anyone you like, Suitcase Jake was right.

  88. NFL PICK 4- WEEK 7 PATRIOTS SUCK RESULTS says

    NFL PICK 4- WEEK 7 RESULTS

    Jaguars (-3) host the Giants>>>>>Giants 23-Jags 17
    Broncos (-1) host the Jets>>>>>>>Jets 16-Broncos 9
    Chiefs (-2.5) @ the Forty-Niners>>Chiefs 44-Niners 23
    Pats (-8) host the Bears>>>>>>>Bears 33-Pats 14

    Doug….Giants, Jets(36), Chiefs, Bears>>>>>>>4-0
    SC…Giants, Jets, Chiefs, Patriots (49)>>>>>>>3-1
    Fast Eddie…Giants, Jets, Chiefs, Patriots (49)>3-1
    csg revised. giants jets 49ers pats 34>>>>>>>>2-2
    Capt. Mike..Jags, Broncos (37), Chiefs, Pats>>1-3
    Suitcase Jake…giants [44] jets 49er’s Patsies>2-2
    Bobf… Giants, Jets, chiefs (41), Patriots>>>>>3-1

    Winner Take All

    2 Suitcase Jake
    2 csg
    2 Doug
    1 Liz Cherokee

    Season Long Records

    Doug………..…….17-11
    Bobf……………..…16-12
    csg……………..….14-14
    Suitcase Jake….….13-15
    SC………………….13-15
    Fast Eddie………. 13-15
    Captain Mike Obvious…3-5

    Inactive
    Liz Cherokee…..…6-6
    AlJ… ……………..4-4

  89. Summed up nicely doug.
    Second on the suitcase comment.
    There is no joy in mudville tonight.
    Massive hit on andrews, and dugger and phillios went out hurt. Kind of meager in the hope department for pats this morning.
    I never expected playoffs, but slow steady gains on it would have been nice.
    I thought they may have had something with the zappe-parker grab. Yeah, more of that.
    Now? Oh well, easy controversy come, easy controversy go……….

  90. Suitcase Jake says

    It was Tom Brady that Won the Super Bowls… Bill was riding on Toms coat tails ….That Offense is horrible.. That DEFENSE is non existent ……
    what is the dramatic irony, and situational irony….???
    Bill was trying to break George Halas record in Wins total …. tied with Halas
    and playing the Bears to go one win AHEAD…And the Bears Rose to the Occasion and kept Bill from defeating OLD Papa Bears on this strange foggy wet nasty ghost like weather….They defended the better Coach !!! Billy’s record isn’t to hot without Tommy…in games he’s coached the Patriots without Brady over his 23 seasons in New England, Belichick has gone 36-38 (. 486). In comparison, he sports an impressive 219-64 (. 774) mark in games that Brady started.Oct 4, 2022 Enough Said on that one…

  91. NFL PICK 4*** WEEK 8 SPECIAL****3 PLUS 1 PLAYERS CHOICE says

    NFL PICK 4*** WEEK 8 SPECIAL****3 PLUS 1 PLAYERS CHOICE

    Rules

    Pretty simple just pick four teams, one from each game USING THE POINT SPREAD. No ties, no over/under if there is a tie score USING THE POINT SPREAD you get credit for the win.

    Tie Breaker- pick the total score from ANY of the four games. Closest to come to that score in the event of a tie wins. If that does not resolve the tie then the HIGHEST of the point totals for ONLY THE TIED PLAYERS wins.

    Like in the Pick 6 change your picks any time for any reason up to game time.

    WEEKLY WINNER TAKE ALL-Each week there will be a winner.
    SEASON STANDINGS-cumulative results will be tallied. A season long champion will be crowned based on winning percentage with a minimum participation rate to be determined at a later date.

    Week 8
    Patriots (-2.5) at the Jets
    Seahawks (-3) are at home vs the Giants
    Wild Card Game- Niners (-1.5) at the Rams
    ****PLAYERS CHOICE GAME-SEE LIST BELOW

    ****With teams playing each other and having bi weeks some weeks each NFL Pick 4 player can pick their own game. Pick any game from the following list…..your choice….just one please!

    PLAYERS CHOICE (Pick Any Game)

    Baltimore Ravens at Tampa Bay Bucs BUCS -1
    Denver Broncos vs. Jacksonville Jaguars (in London) JAX -2.5
    Miami Dolphins at Detroit Lions MIA -3.5
    Pittsburgh Steelers at Philadelphia Eagles PHI -10.5
    Carolina Panthers at Atlanta Falcons ATL -4.5
    Las Vegas Raiders at New Orleans Saints LV -1.5
    Chicago Bears at Dallas Cowboys DAL -9.5
    Arizona Cardinals at Minnesota Vikings MIN -3.5
    Tennessee Titans at Houston Texans TEN -2
    Washington Commanders at Indianapolis Colts IND -3
    Green Bay Packers at Buffalo Bills BUF -11
    Cincinnati Bengals at Cleveland Browns CIN -3.5

  92. Jets, Giants, Rams, Bengals

  93. Fast Eddie says

    Pats, Seahawks, Rams (47), Commanders

  94. Doug….Ravens
    It’s now 6:16 I just want to get on the board for this Thursday night game. Remainder of picks to follow.

  95. Doug….Pats-Seahawk(50)-Niners-Ravens

  96. Im still licking wounds from last weeks pats beat down. This week is a hard game to pick because of key pieces out. For both teams. Andrews, barmore out for this one. Phillips, Uche, Wynn, still pretty dinged up. And can trent brown stay out of penalty trouble please? A qb trying to get back to something that resembles a stride. I know jets have issues, but home crowd, on a roll. Gotta go with jets to cover on this one, I feel like a traitor Doug! So..

    Jets, niners, seahawks, titans(44)

  97. Boy I love it Bobf when you get into the weeds on the Pats and no you’re no traitor you’re smart. My pick purely a play on the pride factor. I can’t believe the Pats will turn in another stinker like against DA BEARS.
    If you saw Mac’s off balance, back foot interception that got him yanked, that was more punt then pass you’ll understand my private note to him as follows:

    Dear Mr. Jones,
    We’re sorry for the whole booing you slash cheering for Zappe thing last week we just got a little too carried away. We are all rooting for you to have a good game. We know our place, you’re the expert but just one suggestion if you can indulge us. Throw passes only to Patriots. Not just most of the time, all the time. Or out of bounds if it’s clear no Patriots are available to catch your passes. Please avoid passing it to a Jets player nothing good can come from that.
    Respectfully yours,
    Pats Fan Nation

  98. how is it a difficult decision. Pats good. Jets bad. I have to sleep at night. So I will be picking the P A T S Pats Pats Pats.

    csg pats 40 giants rams Houston we have a problem.

  99. Good pen Doug.
    My brother keeps beating me on stay with zappe, he thinks on his feet better.
    I think mac has more raw passing skills, can see the field better, if he could make better field decisions. See how this game plays out.
    Yes csg, i applaud you for sticking with your team, and like i said, ill probably have my butt handed to me on that one.
    Pats good, 3-4, jets bad 5-2.
    I do hope pats win. Even if it means me losing!

  100. NFL Pick 4-Week 8 Results says

    NFL Pick 4-Week 8 Results

    Patriots (-2.5) at the Jets>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pats 22-Jets 17
    Seahawks (-3) at home vs the Giants>>Seahawks 27-Giants 13
    Wild Card Game- Niners (-1.5) at the Rams>Niners 31-Rams 14
    Bengals (-3) at the Browns>>>>>>>>>Browns 32-Bengals 13
    Colts (-3) vs the Commanders >>>>>>Commanders 17-Colts 16
    Bucs (-2.5) at home vs the Ravens>>>>>>>Ravens 27-Bucs 22
    Titans (-1) at the Texans>>>>>.>>>>>>>>Titans 17-Texans 10

    SC….Jets, Giants, Rams, Bengals>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>0-4
    Fast Eddie…Pats, Seahawks, Rams (47), Commanders>>3-1
    Doug….Pats-Seahawk(50)-Niners-Ravens>>>>>>>>>>>4-0
    Bobf….Jets, niners, seahawks, titans(44)>>>>>>>>>>>>>3-1
    csg…. pats 40 giants rams Houston >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>1-3

    Winner Take All

    3 Doug
    2 Suitcase Jake
    2 csg
    1 Liz Cherokee

    Season Long Records

    Doug………..…….21-11
    Bobf……………..…19-13
    Fast Eddie………. 16-16
    csg……………..….15-17
    SC………………….13-19

    Inactives
    Suitcase Jake….….13-15
    Captain Mike Obvious…3-5
    Liz Cherokee…..…6-6
    AlJ… ……………..4-4

  101. Season half way point. Boy that went fast!
    Going it the AFC was supposed to be dominant. Loaded rosters and elite quarterbacks with only one or two playoff spots in play. At the half way point the entire NFL has perhaps 3 scary teams the Bills, Chiefs and Eagles. The rest it’s a muddle due to injuries, bad coaching and rosters that didn’t gel. Pat’s, Jets and Giants not supposed to be playoff caliber and look. Giants are half way in, Jets and Pats mediocre but not out of the running either. Bengals, Chargers, Raiders and Colts all anointed playoff shoe ins at the beginning of the season are anything but with the Raiders in a special class of WTF Josh.
    Now it gets really interesting.

  102. NFL PICK 4*** WEEK 9 SPECIAL****3 PLUS 1 PLAYERS CHOICE says

    NFL PICK 4*** WEEK 9 SPECIAL****3 PLUS 1 PLAYERS CHOICE

    Rules

    Pretty simple just pick four teams, one from each game USING THE POINT SPREAD. No ties, no over/under if there is a tie score USING THE POINT SPREAD you get credit for the win.

    Tie Breaker- pick the total score from ANY of the four games. Closest to come to that score in the event of a tie wins. If that does not resolve the tie then the HIGHEST of the point totals for ONLY THE TIED PLAYERS wins.

    Like in the Pick 6 change your picks any time for any reason up to game time.

    WEEKLY WINNER TAKE ALL-Each week there will be a winner.
    SEASON STANDINGS-cumulative results will be tallied. A season long champion will be crowned based on winning percentage.

    Pats (-5.5) at home vs the Colts
    Bills (-11.5) at the Jets
    Wild Card Game…..Chiefs (-12.5) at home vs the Titans
    ****PLAYERS CHOICE GAME-SEE LIST BELOW

    ****With teams playing each other and having bi weeks some weeks each NFL Pick 4 player can pick their own game. Pick any game from the following list…..your choice….just one please!

    PLAYERS CHOICE (Pick Any Game)

    Philadelphia Eagles at Houston Texans PHI -13.5
    Minnesota Vikings at Washington Commanders MIN -3
    Carolina Panthers at Cincinnati Bengals CIN -7
    Los Angeles Chargers at Atlanta Falcons LAC -3
    Green Bay Packers at Detroit Lions GB -3.5
    Miami Dolphins at Chicago Bears MIA -4.5
    Las Vegas Raiders at Jacksonville Jaguars LV -1.5
    Seattle Seahawks at Arizona Cardinals AZ -2
    Baltimore Ravens at New Orleans Saints BAL -2.5
    Los Angeles Rams at Tampa Bay Bucs Tampa -3

    Doug…..Pats-Jets-Titans-Vikings (46)

  103. Patriots, Bills, Titans, Packers

  104. Doug;

    Colts,cheifs,bills,seahawks (50)
    Thanks Doug!

  105. Fast Eddie says

    Pats, jets, titans 47, vikings

  106. Suitcase Jake says

    Patsies..Bills..Titans..Packers 45

  107. NFL PICK 4- WEEK 9 ROUNDUP says

    NFL PICK 4–WEEK 9 ROUNDUP

    Doug…..Pats-Jets-Titans-Vikings (46)
    SC…Patriots, Bills, Titans, Packers
    Bobf… Colts,cheifs,bills,seahawks (50)
    Fast Eddie…Pats, jets, titans 47, vikings
    Suitcase Jake…Patsies..Bills..Titans..Packers 45

  108. NFL PICK 4 SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT says

    This is to announce that this week will be the end of the first half of the NFL Pick 4 contest. Starting in week 10 everyone starts at zero and it’s a new game so to speak.
    The top two cumulative scores so far are an anomaly. Experts, insiders and gambling professionals can’t get that far over a 50% success rate. It’s happened mainly through the small 4 game per week pick format and a whole lot of pure luck.

    ***This change is subject to the blackball. Any regular player plays the blackball favoring continuing the current scoring by next Wednesday and there will be no reset.***

    No blackball and next week we start fresh. If we all can stick with it should be good fun especially if we can make it to Wild Card Weekend with our group in tact.

  109. NFL PICK 4- WEEK 9 Results says

    NFL PICK 4- WEEK 9 Results

    Pats (-5.5) at home vs the Colts>>>>>>>>>>Pats 26-Colts 3
    Bills (-11.5) at the Jets>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jets 20-Bills 17
    Chiefs (-12.5) at home vs the Titans>>>Chiefs 20-Titans 17
    Vikings (-3) at the Commanders>>>>>>>Vikings 20-Com 17
    Packers (-3.5) at the Lions >>>>>>>>>>>Lions 15-Packers 9
    Cardinals (-2) at home vs Seahawks>>Seahawks 31-Cards 21

    Doug…..Pats-Jets-Titans-Vikings (46)>>>>>>>>>>>3-1 (TB +9)
    SC…Patriots, Bills, Titans, Packers>>>>>>>>>>>>>2-2
    Bobf… Colts,cheifs,bills,seahawks (50)>>>>>>>>>>1-3
    Fast Eddie…Pats, jets, titans 47, vikings>>>>>>>>>3-1 (TB +10)
    Suitcase Jake…Patsies..Bills..Titans..Packers 45>>>2-2

    Winner Take All

    4 Doug
    2 Suitcase Jake
    2 csg
    1 Liz Cherokee

    Season Long Records

    Doug………..…….24-12
    Bobf……………..…20-16
    Fast Eddie………. 19-17
    Suitcase Jake….….15-17
    SC………………….15-21

    Inactives
    csg……………..….15-17
    Captain Mike Obvious…3-5
    Liz Cherokee…..…6-6
    AlJ… ……………..4-4

    ***BARING A BLACKBALL THIS CONCLUDES THE FIRST HALF OF THE 2022 NFL PICK 4 SEASON. NEXT WEEK EVERYONE STARTS AT ZERO***

  110. 13 GAME PICK OPEN COMING THURSDAY-ALL INVITED TO PLAY says

    Pats and Jets are in a bye week so to start off the second half of the 2022 NFL game picking season where everyone is starting with a clean slate we’re going to be picking all the games except the Thursday night game. That’s 13 games to pick so do your homework this is going to be a challenge.
    Open to all, new players encouraged to join in.

  111. So we’re picking straight up with no spreads?

  112. NFL WEEK 10 OPEN-13 GAMES-STRAIGHT UP!!! says

    The intent going in was to pick with the points as usual. However since this is an open and different lets go straight up.
    Come one, come all. The handicapped points won’t even be listed on this one so all you need to do is pick the winner. Easy peasy!

  113. No tiebreaker should that happen?

  114. What would you prefer Bobf? A lot of people will have overlap so perhaps you could think up something interesting to break a tie. Like we have in the usual pick or perhaps a couple games pick the total score instead of one. Call the shot that’s what we’ll do.

  115. Doug;
    I kind if like the pick the to total point score of one of the games you choose, format. But if the body of players feels there is no need for any tiebreaker, im fine with that as well. I was curious was all. Thanks for all your hard work.

  116. Suitcase Jake says

    Seattle Buffalo Chicago Tennessee Kansas City Miami NY Giants Pittsburgh Las Vegas Dallas LA Rams San Fran 49’ers Philly
    Tiebreaker-Total score Giants- Houston 41pts

  117. 13 GAME PICK WEEK 10 OPEN-ALL INVITED TO PLAY-NO POINTS JUST PICK THE WINNERS says

    13 GAME PICK WEEK 10 OPEN-ALL INVITED TO PLAY-NO ODDS/NO POINTS JUST PICK THE WINNERS

    Here it is. The kick off (pun intended) to the second half of the 2022 NFL Pick Season. Starting with the blockbuster OPEN with all games in play except the Thursday nights game due to time constraints.
    No odds, no points…….nothin. Just pick the winner. For the tie breaker predict the TOTAL POINTS SCORED IN THE GAME for any ONE game. Closest to the actual final point total wins. If it remains a tie then the win is shared.
    *****ALERT****
    THE UPSET SPECIAL!!!
    The point spreads are being shown ONLY for the purpose of picking the UPSET SPECIAL.
    Pick any UNDERDOG in any ONE of the games with a point spread o -4 OR GREATER (games with *) and qualify for a TWO point bonus in your final win score. Upset special is for the WIN not covering the spread.
    YOUR UPSET SPECIAL DOES NOT HAVE TO MATCH YOUR GAME PICK!!!

    WEEK 10 GAMES

    Seattle Seahawks at Tampa Bay Buccaneers TB -2.5
    *Minnesota Vikings at Buffalo Bills BUF -7.5
    Detroit Lions at Chicago Bears CHI -2.5
    Denver Broncos at Tennessee Titans TEN -3
    *Jacksonville Jaguars at Kansas City Chiefs KC -9.5
    *Cleveland Browns at Miami Dolphins MIA -4
    *Houston Texans at New York Giants NYG -6.5
    New Orleans Saints at Pittsburgh Steelers NO -2.5
    *Indianapolis Colts at Las Vegas Raiders LV -6
    *Dallas Cowboys at Green Bay Packers DAL -5.5
    Arizona Cardinals at Los Angeles Rams LAR -3
    *Los Angeles Chargers at San Francisco 49ers SF -7
    *Washington Commanders at Philadelphia Eagles PHI -10.5

    Entries
    SC…Bucaneers, Bills, Bears, Titans, Chiefs, Dolphins, Giants, Steelers, , Raiders, Packers, Rams, 49ers, Eagles.
    Upset Special

    Suitcase Jake…Seahawks, Bill, Bears, Titans, Chiefs, Dolphins, Giants (41), Steelers, Raiders, Cowboys, Rams, 49ers, Eagles
    Upset Special

    Doug…Seahawks, Bills, Bears, Chiefs, Giants, Dolphins, Giants, Saints, Raiders, Cowboys, Cardinals, 49ers, Eagles
    Upset Special-Commanders

  118. Resending my entry
    Bucaneers (50), Bills, Bears, Chiefs, Dolphins, Giants, Steelers, Titans, Raiders, Packers, Rams, 49ers, Eagles. Upset Special: Vikings

  119. Tampa, Vikings, Lions, Titans, KC, Browns, Texans, Saints, Raiders, Packers, Rams, 49ers, Washington (upset)

  120. Suitcase Jake says

    Upset special : Indianapolis

  121. csg
    TB -2.5
    BUF -7.5
    CHI -2.5
    TEN -3
    * KC -9.5
    MIA -4
    NYG -6.5
    Pittsburgh Steelers
    LV -6
    DAL -5.5
    Arizona Cardinals
    SF -7
    PHI -10.5
    US *Minnesota Vikings

  122. NFL GAME PICK OPEN-DON'T BE SHY, GIVE IT A TRY! says

    Thank you to the regulars for executing this audible and especially the owner of the dance hall that makes it all possible.
    But really, no new blood? Those Upset Special picks seem hair brained just looking at them objectively but I’d bet someone is gonna win hitting on one.
    Don’t be shy, give it a try all you crusty old race fans.
    Islip 300 Saturday, win the football pick contest by Monday night.
    Life is good.

  123. Capt. Mike Qbvious says

    Tampa Bay, Buffalo (45), Chicago, Tennessee, Kansas City, Miami, NYG, Pittsburgh, Las Vegas, Dallas, Arizona, San Francisco, Philadelphia

    UPSET SPECIAL: Indianapolis

  124. Suitcase Jake says

    HELLO ALL FOOTBALL FANS ..>>>> PICK THE WINNERS PICK”EM ……
    LETS GO !!!! HAVE FUN = BE HAPPY … !!!!!! JOIN IN THE FUN …
    OPEN TO ALL RDCT READERS ..>>>>>>>> ITS EASY PICK A WINNER!!!

  125. Doug, if you please;

    Bucs, bills, bears, titans, cheifs, dolphins,
    Giants, saints, raiders, dallas, cardinals, 49’s, eagles.
    Thanks!

  126. NFL Week 10 PICK OPEN ROUNDUP says

    NFL Week 10 PICK OPEN ROUNDUP

    SC…..Bucs (50), Bills, Bears, Titans, Chiefs, Dolphins, Giants, Steelers, Raiders, Packers, Rams, 49ers, Eagles. Upset Special: Vikings

    Fast Eddie….Bucs, Vikings, Lions, Titans, Chiefs, Browns, Texans, Saints, Raiders, Packers, Rams, 49ers, Washington (upset)

    Doug…Seahawks, Bills, Bears, Chiefs, Giants, Dolphins, Giants, Saints, Raiders, Cowboys, Cardinals, 49ers, Eagles(39)
    Upset Special-Commanders
    (Missed Titans/Broncos pick-game started-counted as incorrect pick)

    Suitcase Jake…Seahawks, Bill, Bears, Titans, Chiefs, Dolphins, Giants (41), Steelers, Raiders, Cowboys, Rams, 49ers, Eagles
    Upset Special-Colts

    csg….Bucs, Bills, Bears, Titans, Chiefs, Dolphins, Giants Steelers, Raiders, Cowboys, Cards, 49ers, Eagles.
    US *Minnesota Vikings

    Capt. Mike Qbvious…Bucs, Bills(45), Bears, Titans, Chiefs, Dolphins, Giants, Steelers, Raiders, Cowboys, Cards, 49ers, Eagles.
    UPSET SPECIAL: Indianapolis

    Bobf….Bucs, bills, bears, titans, chiefs, dolphins,
    Giants, saints, raiders, cowboys, cardinals, 49’s, eagles.

    A few of us missed the total score tie breaker. If you can get it in for the Sunday night or Monday night games before they start they will be allowed.
    Bobf missed the upset special. Last two games on the list are in play if you want to get your pick in.

  127. Csg eagles total pts 44

  128. NFL Week 10 PICK OPEN RESULTS says

    NFL Week 10 OPEN PICK RESULTS

    Winning Teams: Bucs, Vikings, Lions, Titans, Chiefs, Dolphins, Giants, Steelers, Colts, Packers, Cards, 49ers, Commanders

    SC…..Bucs (50), Bills, Bears, Titans, Chiefs, Dolphins, Giants, Steelers, Raiders, Packers, Rams, 49ers, Eagles. Upset Special: Vikings
    8+2 (Tie Breaker +13)

    Fast Eddie….Bucs, Vikings, Lions, Titans, Chiefs, Browns, Texans, Saints, Raiders, Packers, Rams, 49ers, Washington (upset)
    7+2

    Doug…Seahawks, Bills, Bears, Chiefs, Giants, Dolphins, xxxxxxx, Saints, Raiders, Cowboys, Cardinals, 49ers, Eagles(39)
    Upset Special-Commanders
    (Missed Titans/Broncos pick-game started-counted as incorrect pick)
    5+2

    Suitcase Jake…Seahawks, Bill, Bears, Titans, Chiefs, Dolphins, Giants (41), Steelers, Raiders, Cowboys, Rams, 49ers, Eagles
    Upset Special-Colts
    6+2

    csg….Bucs, Bills, Bears, Titans, Chiefs, Dolphins, Giants Steelers, Raiders, Cowboys, Cards, 49ers, Eagles (44).
    US *Minnesota Vikings
    8+2 (Tie Breaker -11)

    Capt. Mike Qbvious…Bucs, Bills(45), Bears, Titans, Chiefs, Dolphins, Giants, Steelers, Raiders, Cowboys, Cards, 49ers, Eagles.
    UPSET SPECIAL: Indianapolis
    8+2 (Tie Breaker -18)

    Bobf….Bucs, bills, bears, titans, chiefs, dolphins,
    Giants, saints, raiders, cowboys, cardinals, 49’s, eagles.
    7

    Winner Take All
    Tie between SC, csg and Capt. Mike Obvious with csg taking down the win on the tie breaker.

    Cumulative Standings **
    8-5 csg
    8-5 SC
    8-5 Capt Mike Obvious
    7-6 Fast Eddie
    7-6 Suitcase Jake
    5-8 Doug

    **Excludes bonus points. Game winner picks only for the purpose of determining the 2022 second half of the season winner

    HEADLINE-game pickers make a mockery of the UPSET SPECIAL with 6 out of 7 picking the right team in three different games.

  129. Doug;
    Did i make the cumulative standings?

  130. NFL Week 10 PICK OPEN RESULTS says

    Winner Take All
    Tie between SC, csg and Capt. Mike Obvious with csg taking down the win on the tie breaker.

    Cumulative Standings **
    8-5 csg
    8-5 SC
    8-5 Capt Mike Obvious
    7-6 Fast Eddie
    7-6 Suitcase Jake
    7-6 Bobf
    5-8 Doug

  131. Congratulation to the three most top game pickers including their success at the Upset Special as well.
    Now it’s back to the grind. A really tough decision to be made regarding the Jets @ Pats game. Complicated with both coming off their one week break. Lions at the Giants and two great wild card games. Cowboys at the Vikings and Chiefs at the Chargers. All with important playoff implications.
    Those straight up picks weren’t so easy were they? Fast Eddie was Mr. Upset Special picking a host of underdogs and almost pulled it off.

  132. Thanks Doug! My picks are about as unscientific as it gets. I go by what results might be more beneficial to the Patriots.

  133. NFL PICK 4 -WEEK 11 PLUS THE "LUCKY DOG BONUS POINT" says

    NFL PICK 4 -WEEK 11 -PLUS LUCKY DOG BONUS

    Rules

    Pretty simple just pick four teams, one from each game USING THE POINT SPREAD. For the second half of the 2022 season we will be counting ties USING THE POINT SRPEAD.

    Tie Breaker- pick the total score from ANY of the four games. Closest to come to that score in the event of a tie wins. If the TIE BREAKER does not resolve the tie then all tied game pickers get credit for the WINNER TAKE ALL for the week.

    Like in the Pick 6 change your picks any time for any reason up to game time.

    WEEKLY WINNER TAKE ALL-Each week there will be a winner.
    SEASON STANDINGS-cumulative results will be tallied. Second half of the 2022 season began in week 10 so games to follow to be added to last weeks results.

    >>>>>ALERT–LUCKY DOG BONUS!!<<<<<
    CLICK ON THIS PAGE

    https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/scoreboard/

    Pick any UNDERDOG and get a 1 point LUCKY DOG BONUS in your final score. Ties USING THE POINT SPREAD considered a failed pick.
    UNDERDOG defined as any TEAM getting at least a 4 point spread advantage. This weeks teams that qualify; BROWNS, COLTS, PANTHERS, STEELERS, CHARGER AND CARDINALS.

    Week 11 Games

    Pats (-3) at home vs the Jets
    Giants (-3) at home vs the Lions
    Cowboys (-1.5) at the Vikings
    Chiefs (-5.5) at the Chargers
    FOUR POINTS IN PLAY PLUS THE LUCKY DOG BONUS IF YOU GUESS RIGHT!

    It's crunch time with everyone starting fresh as of last week. The teams known quantities at this stage as we roll toward the playoff with each game gaining importance for all the teams.
    It's SHOWTIME…..can you beat the odds??

  134. Patriots, Giants, Vikings, Chiefs (50)
    Underdog: Vikings.

  135. Patriots, Lions, Vikings (U), Chargers (47)

  136. NFL PICK 4 -WEEK 11 "LUCKY DOG BONUS POINT" CLARIFICATION says

    >The only teams qualifying to earn the LUCKY DOG BONUS if they win are BROWNS, COLTS, PANTHERS, STEELERS, CHARGERS AND CARDINALS.
    >The LUCKY DOG BONUS is separate from your other four picks.

  137. Doug;
    Pats, giants, vikings (47) chiefs

    If i read the underdog rules correctly, i cant oick the vikings as they are not at least a 4 point underdog, so im going to go with the steelers.
    Thanks!

  138. Updated Choices
    Patriots, Giants, Vikings, Chiefs (50)
    Underdog: Cardinals.

  139. csg pats 41, giants. vikes. chiefs. upset chargers

    I assume I can take the chargers as my upset even though I took the chiefs in my regular pick. Let me know if that isn’t kosher. Happy thanksgiving

  140. PS if I cant take the chargers as my upset I will go Steelers. Steelers would be my second choice. Happy Black Friday shopping day.

  141. Capt. Mike Qbvious says

    Patriots (44), Giants, Cowboys, Chiefs
    UNDERDOG: Steelers

  142. Boy that Luck Dog pick write up is confusing. Sounded good in my head. Sorry about that.
    To be clear the only teams in play for the bonus are BROWNS, COLTS, PANTHERS, STEELERS, CHARGERS AND CARDINALS and only FOR THE WIN……..NO POINTS. If you assumed points apply please change your pick accordingly.
    If I can get it straight it should be a nice twist for someone. No way last weeks record of hitting on the long shots will be repeated.

    Doug….Pats(40), Giants, Cowboys, Chargers
    Underdog…Colts

  143. Sorry Doug, revised picks:
    Patriots, Lions, Vikings, Chargers (47) – Panthers (U)

  144. NFL PICK 4 -WEEK 11 Roundup says

    NFL PICK 4 -WEEK 11 Roundup

    SC…Patriots, Giants, Vikings, Chiefs (50)
    Underdog: Cardinals.
    Fast Eddie….Patriots, Lions, Vikings , Chargers (47)
    Underdog…Panthers
    Bobf….Pats, giants, vikings (47) chiefs
    Underdog….Steelers
    csg… pats 41, giants. vikes. chiefs.
    upset chargers
    Capt Mike Qbvious.. Patriots (44), Giants, Cowboys, Chiefs
    UNDERDOG: Steelers
    Doug….Pats(40), Giants, Cowboys, Chargers
    Underdog…Colts

    csg “I assume I can take the chargers as my upset even though I took the chiefs in my regular pick”
    Correct. There is no link between the 4 regulars picks and the underdog pick.

    Bobf “If i read the underdog rules correctly, i cant (pick) the vikings as they are not at least a 4 point underdog”
    Correct. Any spread under 4 points isn’t much of an upset and we’re trying to really beat the odds with our underdog picks. Remember, the underdog pick is for the win, no point spread.

  145. Suitcase Jake says

    Giants. jets.. dallas Chiefs.
    underdog Vikings . sorry a few minutes late

  146. Suitcase Jake says

    underdog Cardinals

  147. Suitcase Jake says

    Dallas 45 t

  148. Suitcase Jake says

    Sorry Guys i was late.. in Church.. totally forgot…. if you want to disallow my picks i understand…i don’t think any points were scored on my picks when i put them in .. Sorry .

  149. Church! Well see right there you get a pass. You had better been in church Mr. or there will be consequences of a greater nature.
    The traveling man is in or as I like to think of him Moon Doggy. The beach comber living the life few of us can swing searching out sun and fun as a snowbird that may find his way north when the weather is more temperate.
    I’d like to be good natured about your good fortune well earned I trust but can’t so you suck!

  150. Suitcase Jake says

    LOL …. 41 years hard working…30years playing with race cars sold house .. now traveling … its great being homeless .. no more real estate taxes… full time RV- ing .. lots of folks doing it … great fun…planning for years and now living it… feels good.. My Dad told me .. retire young and enjoy your life.. Because the Golden Years are not so Golden..He died young 60’s … So I am taking Dad’s advice …

  151. NFL PICK 4 -WEEK 11 Results-FAST EDDIE WINS! says

    NFL PICK 4 -WEEK 11 Results

    Pats (-3) at home vs the Jets>>>>>Pats 10-Jets 3
    Giants (-3) at home vs the Lions>>Lions 31-Giants 18
    Cowboys (-1.5) at the Vikings>>>>Cowboys 40-Vikings 3
    Chiefs (-5.5) at the Chargers>>>>>Chiefs 30-Chargers 27

    SC…Patriots, Giants, Vikings, Chiefs (50)>>>>>>>>>>1-3
    Underdog: Cardinals.
    Fast Eddie….Patriots, Lions, Vikings , Chargers (47)>>3-1
    Panthers (U)
    Bobf….Pats, giants, vikings (47) chiefs>>>>>>>>>>>>1-3
    Underdog….Steelers
    csg… pats 41, giants. vikes. chiefs.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>1-3
    upset chargers
    Capt Mike .. Patriots (44), Giants, Cowboys, Chiefs>>>2-2
    UNDERDOG: Steelers
    Doug….Pats(40), Giants, Cowboys, Chargers>>>>>>>3-1
    Underdog…Colts
    Suitcase Jake…Giants. jets.. dallas (45) Chiefs.>>>>>>1-3
    underdog Cardinals

    Tie breaker. Fast Eddie Chiefs/Chargers (-10). WINNER!
    Doug Jets/Pats (-27)

    SECOND HALF OF 2022 SEASON STANDINGS

    Winner Take All
    1-Capt. Mike Qbvious
    1 Fast Eddie

    Cumulative Standings
    10-7 Capt Mike Obvious
    10-7 Fast Eddie
    9-8 csg
    9-8 SC
    8-9 Suitcase Jake
    8-9 Bobf
    8-9 Doug

  152. NFL PICK 4 -WEEK 12-PARDON A TURKEY SPECIAL! says

    NFL PICK 4 -WEEK 12-PARDON A TURKEY SPECIAL!

    Sorry for the quick turn around but important games on tap for Thanksgiving Thursday so no time to lick our wounds or celebrate success.

    Rules

    Pretty simple just pick four teams, one from each game USING THE POINT SPREAD. For the second half of the 2022 season we will be counting ties USING THE POINT SRPEAD.

    Tie Breaker- pick the total score from ANY of the four games. Closest to come to that score in the event of a tie wins. If the TIE BREAKER does not resolve the tie then all tied game pickers get credit for the WINNER TAKE ALL for the week.

    Like in the Pick 6 change your picks any time for any reason up to game time.

    WEEKLY WINNER TAKE ALL-Each week there will be a winner
    SEASON STANDINGS-cumulative results will be tallied. Second half of the 2022 season began in week 10.

    REGULAR PICKS USING THE POINT SPREAD (WORTH 1 POINT/ea)
    Cowboys (-9) at home vs Giants
    Vikings (-2.5) at home vs Pats
    Jets (-4.5) at home vs Da Bears
    Bengals (-1.5) at the Titans

    PARDON A TURKEY UPSET SPECIAL. (ONE PICK/WORTH 2 POINTS)
    Teams in CAPS below are TURKEYS scheduled to be slaughtered. Pick ONE that successfully escapes the chopping block with a win and earn a TWO POINT BONUS toward the WEEKLY WINNER prize.

    Bills (-9) at the LIONS
    GIANTS at the Cowboys (-9)
    BEARS at the Jets (-4.5)
    TEXANS at the Dolphins (-12)
    FALCONS at the Commanders (-4)
    Ravens (-4) at the JAGS
    Chargers (-4) at the CARDS
    RAMS at the Chiefs (14.5)
    SAINTS at the 49ers (-8)
    PACKERS at the Eagles (-7)

    2 point bonus counts only for the WEEKLY WINNER and is not included in the cumulative standings.
    REGULAR and BONUS picks are not linked. You can pick two different teams in the same game for each of the REGULAR and BONUS point segments.

  153. Cowboys, Vikings, Jets, Bengals (50)
    Upset Special: Falcons

  154. OMG, I am amazed that I won a football pool! Great idea with the “Turkey pick” Doug!
    Patriots, Cowboys, Bears, Titans – Turkey = Commanders

  155. Ugly week 11. Dont let the door hit you in the butt in way out. Ouch!

    Week 12:
    Cowboys, (48) jets, vikings, titans
    Take the falcons as my turkey. Falcons like turkey!
    Happy thanksgiving everyone!

  156. You are the king of the upset special Eddie no doubt about that. Chargers pick was bold but the Lions over the Giants? Are you kidding me. Nicely done.

  157. Capt. Mike Qbvious says

    Cowboys (52), Patriots, Bears, Bengals
    TURKEY WITH GRAVY: Giants

  158. Doug, I have to admit my picks are strictly based on what benefits the Pats, and I may even not always get that right. As the Giants were the Patriots kryptonite in two Superbowls… Hate is a rather harsh word but with apologies to Giants fans, let’s say I always enjoy the Giants not doing well. I am a big fan of New York racing, but not so much on any other NY sports.

  159. Thanks Bob, I just realized I messed up my tukey pick, I’ll go with the Falcons as well.

  160. Sorry for my confusion Doug! Revised picks:
    Patriots, Cowboys (47), Bears, Titans – Turkey = Falcons

  161. Suitcase Jake says

    Cowboys- 45 Vikings Bears Titans Turkey – JAGS
    HAPPY THANKSGIVING !!!!!

  162. NFL PICK 4 -WEEK 12-PARDON A TURKEY ROUNDUP says

    NFL PICK 4 -WEEK 12-PARDON A TURKEY ROUNDUP

    SC….Cowboys, Vikings, Jets, Bengals (50)
    Upset Special: Falcons

    Fast Eddie… Patriots, Cowboys (47), Bears, Titans
    Turkey = Falcons

    Bobf…Cowboys, (48) jets, vikings, titans
    Take the falcons as my turkey.

    Capt Mike….Cowboys (52), Patriots, Bears, Bengals
    TURKEY WITH GRAVY: Giants

    Suitcase Jake…Cowboys- 45 Vikings Bears Titans
    Turkey – JAGS

    Doug…Giants, Vikings, Jets(30), Titans
    Pardon-Packers

  163. csg Giants, pats40, Bears, and Bengals turkey that doesnt get stuffed DA Bears. Happy thanksgiving.

  164. Csg rev pick switching to jets over bears upset jags thanks

  165. NFL PICK 4 -WEEK 12-PARDON A TURKEY RESULTS says

    NFL PICK 4 -WEEK 12-PARDON A TURKEY RESULTS

    Cowboys (-9) at home vs Giants>>>>>Cowboys 28-Giants 20
    Vikings (-2.5) at home vs Pats>>>>>>Vikings 33-Pats 26
    Jets (-4.5) at home vs Da Bears>>>>>Jets 31-Bears 10
    Bengals (-1.5) at the Titans>>>>>>>>Bengals 20-Titans 16

    SC….Cowboys, Vikings, Jets, Bengals (50)>>>>>>>>3-1
    Upset Special: Falcons
    Fast Eddie… Patriots, Cowboys (47), Bears, Titans>>1-3
    Turkey = Falcons
    Bobf…Cowboys, (48) jets, vikings, titans>>>>>>>>>>2-2
    Take the falcons as my turkey.
    Capt Mike..Cowboys (52), Patriots, Bears, Bengals>>1-3
    TURKEY WITH GRAVY: Giants
    S Jake…Cowboys- 45 Vikings Bears Titans>>(1+2-3)>3-3
    Turkey – JAGS
    Doug…Giants, Vikings, Jets(30), Titans>>>>>>>>>>3-1
    Pardon-Packers
    csg Giants, pats40, Jets, and Bengals>>>> (3+2-1)>>5-1
    upset jags

    Two players Suitcase Jake and csg nailed their upset special.
    The two point bonus catapults csg over SC and Doug to take down
    this weeks WINNER TAKE ALL!

    SECOND HALF OF 2022 SEASON STANDINGS

    Winner Take All
    1-Capt. Mike Qbvious
    1 Fast Eddie
    1 csg

    Cumulative Standings
    12-9 SC
    12-9 csg
    11-10 Capt Mike Qbvious
    11-10 Fast Eddie
    11-10 Doug
    10-11 Bobf
    9-12 Suitcase Jake

    NOTE: Upset special points are not included in the Cumulative Standings. They do however count toward the WINNER TAKE ALL as we saw this week with csg and will help earn a player or players the WINNER TAKE ALL championship for the second half of the season.

  166. NFL PICK 4 -WEEK 13-THE FIVE GAME HOME STRETCH says

    NFL PICK 4 -WEEK 13-THE FIVE GAME HOME STRETCH

    Bills (-5) at the Pats (Thursday night)
    Vikings (-3) at home vs the Jets
    Commanders (-2.5) at the Giants
    Chiefs (-2) at the Bengals

    Thanks to the 6 other players that have stuck with the game. Only 5 games left, every one is critical so hopefully you’ll stick with it to the end.
    No need to show the rules I’m guessing everyone of you are hardened veterans.
    Short turn around again because of the important Thursday night game. If you want to pick just that game between the Bills and Pats and wait on the others to see what develops please feel free to do so.

  167. Bills, Vikings, Commanders, Chiefs (50)

  168. I’m going Bills for the Thursday night game. The other three I’ll want so see what the chatter is.

  169. Patriots, Vikings, Commanders, Bengals (47)

  170. Capt. Mike Qbvious says

    Bills, Vikings, Giants (48), Chiefs

  171. Pats. vikes. Giants. Chiefs50.

  172. Doug;
    Im going to just pick pats game for now as well.
    If ever there was a time for an upset, its now. I hope Andrews is back, and I hope Bill and co have figured on how to contain a running qb. Diggs banged up, and i believe, Von Miller out.
    So while I know its a stretch for pats to beat bills, I’m a gonna play the spread. Bills don’t cover. Gonna go against the grain and pick the pats here.
    Fingers, toes, and everything else crossed!!!

  173. There’s always reason for optimism. As you said Von Miller is out and four others haven’t practiced including Diggs and Dion Dawkins. An illness has ravaged the Bills locker room only recently abating and practices have not been ideal for the team. Gonna be windy and blustery tonight so that should hinder the better passer that in this case would be Josh Allen. Is this starting to feel like a trap game for the clearly superior Bills?
    My cup is half empty so I’m going to say no. So far the Pats have played four teams with winning records and only managed to beat the Jets. They have not beaten any team they were underdogs going into the game. They have not beaten any team with a premier QB1 and they don’t get more premier then Josh Allen. The team is mind numbingly average and could win with a great QB.. Unfortunately they have Mac Jones still struggling to get back to average. Not passing it to the other team and earning a QB rating over 80 considered a good game. The aging field goal kicker has taken over kick off duties and struggles to reach the goal line on kick offs. The replacement punter is not that good on a team that punts a lot. Harris will be out tonight leaving Stephenson as the only only top running back behind a sketchy offensive line coached by a defensive specialist who also calls the plays. Oh yes and lets not forget the aging field goal kicker is one of the few stars on the team kicking field goals because the Pats red zone offense is close to non existent. Add to that the fact the Bills and Josh Allen hate the Patriots for that hurricane game up in Buffalo last year as well as victimizing the Bills and Allen when he was younger don’t count on the Bills phoning this one in like last week against the Lions.
    This is about as far from and upset special as I can think of and the spread that is now down to 3.5 points an insult to the Bills. My only hope is Fast Eddie with a knack for picking underdogs hits on another one. That and the fact I’ve gone so far out on a limb with this post the gods of football will punish me and allow the Pat’s to put the surprise.

  174. Well, to help your very valid arguments, and no help to me, Trent Brown downgraded to out as well. Jees. I’m in a boatload of trouble, but not turning back now!!

  175. Suitcase Jake says

    Thursday night game – Bills

  176. Ouch! Thats it. Favorites from now on.
    Vikings, commanders, cheifs (48).

  177. Doug….Jets, Giants (38), Bengals

  178. Nice call on bengals doug and eddie.
    Man, burrows was cool as ice in that game. Nobody could have held on to a football in the manner that kelce was stripped either. Game was a barn burner right to the end.

  179. NFL PICK 4 -WEEK 13-RESULTS says

    NFL PICK 4 -WEEK 13-RESULTS

    Bills (-5) at the Pats >>>>>>>>>>>>Bills 24-Pats 10
    Vikings (-3) at home vs the Jets>>>Vikings 27-Jets 22
    Commanders (-2.5) at the Giants>>Commanders 20-Giants 20
    Chiefs (-2) at the Bengals>>>>>>>Bengals 27-Chiefs 24

    SC….Bills, Vikings, Commanders, Chiefs (50)>>>>>>>>>2-2
    F. Eddie..Patriots, Vikings, Commanders, Bengals (47)>>2-2
    Capt Mike…Bills, Vikings, Giants (48), Chiefs>>>>>>>>>3-1(TB +8)
    csg… Pats. vikes. Giants. Chiefs50.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2-2
    Bobf…Pats, Vikings, commanders, cheifs (48).>>>>>>>>1-3
    Suitcase Jake…Bills>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>1-0
    Doug…Bills, Jets, Giants (38), Bengals>>>>>>>>>>>>>>3-1(TB -2)

    Doug wins on the Tie Breaker over Captain Mike Qbvious

    SECOND HALF OF 2022 SEASON STANDINGS

    Winner Take All
    1-Capt. Mike Qbvious
    1 Fast Eddie
    1 csg
    1 Doug

    Cumulative Standings
    14-11 SC
    14-11 csg
    14-11 Capt Mike Qbvious
    14-11 Doug
    13-12 Fast Eddie
    11-14 Bobf

    Pup List
    10-12 Suitcase Jake

  180. NFL PICK 4-Week 14- 3 PLUS 1 PICK YOUR POISON says

    NFL PICK 4-Week 14- 3 PLUS 1 PICK YOUR POISON

    Lets mix it up for week 14. Pick the usual Jets, Giants and Pats games and for your fourth any game you like but ONLY ONE.

    WEEK 14 GAMES

    Bills (-9) at home vs the Jets
    Eagles (-7) at the Giants
    Pats (-2) at the Cards
    PICK YOUR POISON FOR YOUR FOURTH PICK

    Cleveland Browns (+6) at Cincinnati Bengals (-6)
    Houston Texans (+16) at Dallas Cowboys (-16)
    Minnesota Vikings (+2.5) at Detroit Lions (-2.5)
    Baltimore Ravens (+2.5) at Pittsburgh Steelers (-2.5)
    Jacksonville Jaguars (+4) at Tennessee Titans (-4)
    Kansas City Chiefs (-9.5) at Denver Broncos (+9.5)
    Carolina Panthers (+4) at Seattle Seahawks (-4)
    Tampa Bay Buccaneers (+3.5) at San Francisco 49ers (-3.5)
    Miami Dolphins (-3) at Los Angeles Chargers (+3)
    New England Patriots (-2) at Arizona Cardinals (+2)

  181. Bills, Eagles, Cardinals, Vikings (50).

  182. Patriots, Jets, Eagles, Broncos (47)

  183. Bills, eagles,cardinals, bengals (44)

  184. Doug……Bills, Eagles, Pats, Niners (40)

  185. csg Bills, Eagles Pats42 and Vikes (is the spread correct. I would have thought the Vikes would be a 6 point favorite, Maybe injury or something Having said that, probably jinxed them. Lions will probably win by 10 now.)

  186. I like Josh McDaniels so yesterday read a prediction piece on the Raiders/Rams game. Raiders had won three in a row. Could score points the person said and the defense seemed to have finally arrived. Meanwhile the Rams are a mess at QB, their season long gone and essentially have given up. Prediction was Raiders to cover handily and it sure sounded good to me. Well that didn’t happen!
    I like the Cardinals pick by SC a lot just don’t have the gumption to make the call. Good QB, great receiver and the Pats have already proven they can’t stop great receivers. Illness in the Pats locker room, the offense is a mess, Belichick is finally getting called out for that ridiculous pick of Patricia for de facto offensive coordinator. Who’s the GOAT getting called out by you ask. I can answer that literally everyone.
    Cards over the Pats may be the pick of the week.

  187. Suitcase Jake says

    Bills…Eagles..Patsies…Dallas…51

  188. Suitcase Jake says

    Doug. Bill just hires “YES MEN” won’t even give them a title… Bullied a reporter in Pre-Season for asking a ??? Who will be calling plays ?? Bunch of YES MEN going down with the SHIP OF FOOLS…. Billy only wants to pass Don Shula …Mr Ego … I picked the Patsies cuz Arizona is just a complete mess… IT WAS TOM = NOT BILLY and his kids and Crony’s …
    How many Wins would Patsies have with Tom at QB this year ???? Probably 4 or so MORE WINS ….?? !!

  189. Doug;
    Ive had conversations this week with my football buddies. I’ve voiced that McDaniels leaving, hurt the patriots and Mac in a big way. Way big. Nobody is buying what I’m selling. I’m with you on McDaniels.

  190. Bobf, completely agree, I’m buying! Not that I’m big into football, but that was my initial thought when it first happened.

  191. NFL PICK 4-Week 14-Pre Monday Night Game Leaders says

    NFL PICK 4-Week 14-Pre Monday Night Game Leaders

    SC…..Bills, Eagles, Cardinals, Vikings (50) 1-2
    Fast Eddie…Patriots, Jets, Eagles, Broncos (47) 3-0
    Bobf… Bills, eagles,cardinals, bengals (44) 2-1
    Doug……Bills, Eagles, Pats, Niners (40) 2-1
    csg Bills, Eagles Pats42 and Vikes 1-2
    Suitcase Jake…Bills…Eagles..Patsies…Dallas…51 1-2

    Ravens 16, Steelers 14
    Eagles 48, Giants 14
    Bills 20, Jets 12
    Bengals 23, Browns 10
    Cowboys 27, Texans 23
    Jaguars 36, Titans 22
    Lions 34, Vikings 23
    Chiefs 34, Broncos 28
    Panthers 30, Seahawks 24
    49ers 35, Buccaneers 7
    Chargers 23, Dolphins 17

    Going into tonight’s game only Bobf (who won the tie breaker) can beat Fast Eddie and only if the Cards pull the upset.
    Good luck to you both!

  192. NFL PICK 4-Week 14 Results says

    NFL PICK 4-Week 14 Results

    Bills (-9) at home vs the Jets>>>>>>>>>Bills 20-Jets 12
    Eagles (-7) at the Giants>>>>>>>>>>>>Eagles 48-Giants 12
    Pats (-2) at the Cards>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pats 27-Cards 13
    Lions (-2.5) at home vs the Vikings>>>>Lions 34-Vikings 23
    Chiefs (-9.5) at the Broncos>>>>>>>>>Chiefs 34-Broncos 28
    Bengals (-6) at home vs the Browns>>>Bengals 23-Browns 10
    Niners (-3.5) at home vs the Bucs>>>>Niners 35-Bucs 7
    Cowboys (-16) at home vs the Texans>>Cowboys 27-Texans 23

    SC…..Bills, Eagles, Cardinals, Vikings (50) >>>>>1-3
    Fast Eddie…Patriots, Jets, Eagles, Broncos (47) >4-0 (Winner)
    Bobf… Bills, eagles,cardinals, bengals (44)>>>>> 2-2
    Doug……Bills, Eagles, Pats, Niners (40) >>>>>>>3-1
    csg Bills, Eagles Pats42 and Vikes>>>>>>>>>>>> 2-2
    Suitcase Jake…Bills..Eagles..Patsies..Dallas..51> 2-2

    SECOND HALF OF 2022 SEASON STANDINGS

    Winner Take All
    2 Fast Eddie
    1-Capt. Mike Qbvious
    1 csg
    1 Doug

    Cumulative Standings
    17-12 Fast Eddie
    17-12 Doug
    16-13 csg
    15-14 SC
    12-14 Suitcase Jake
    13-16 Bobf

    Inactives
    14-11 Capt Mike Qbvious

  193. Nice job fast eddie. I should have had faith in the pats, but i just did not feel it.

  194. Thanks Bob! Although the way I pick compared to you guys reminds me of the saying, “Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while!”

  195. The perfect week, not too shabby. I think our little group only had one other time with a picks perfection pick set, Congrats Fast Eddie.

  196. NFL PICK 4-Week 15 says

    NFL PICK 4-Week 15

    Bills (-7) at home vs the Dolphins
    Jet (-1.5) at home vs the Lions
    Raiders (-1) at home vs the Pats
    Commander (-4.5) at home vs the Giants

    Doug….Bills(50), Jets, Raiders, Commanders

  197. Bills, Lions, Patriots (50), Washington Football Club

  198. Thanks csg! Not that I know what I’m doing, but for this week…
    Dolphins, (47) Lions, Patriots, Commanders

  199. csg bills44. lions. pats. giants

  200. Doug;
    Raiders, Bills,(48) commanders, jets

  201. Suitcase Jake says

    Dolphins..Lions…Raiders…Commanders – 45

  202. Hey guys,
    How many of you are serious Patriots fans? I just want to ask. The loss to the Raiders hurt but have you ever in your lifetime seen them find such a bizarre way to lose an incredibly important game so pathetically?

  203. The miracle in Miami was pretty bad. I will say this one was worse only due to recency bias. Just a completely bone headed play. There were a lot of bad 4 letter words being shouted as the last play unfolded. My only hope, this one gets us a new offensive coordinator. They will probably wait until the end of the year but it will be tough to see them run this experiment back. I still don’t think the Raiders touchdown to tie the game was in but there wasn’t any real clear video on that. I am sure some kid with a new IPhone in the stands will post a definitive video to Youtube showing whether he was in or not, Oh well on to Cincy. You have to think we probably need 2 out of the next 3 to make the playoffs and for those playing at home that is against Cincy Dolphins and @Bills. Not many cupcakes in there. Go Pats….and the Bruins look pretty good so far.

  204. That wasn’t a loss, that was finding a way to give the Raiders the win! Regardless of all the earlier errors in the game, hang onto the ball and play the overtime!

  205. NFL PICK 4-Week 15 Results says

    NFL PICK 4-Week 15 Results

    Bills (-7) at home vs the Dolphins>>>>>>>>Bills 32-Dolphins 29
    Jet (-1.5) at home vs the Lions>>>>>>>>>>Lions 20-Jets 17
    Raiders (-1) at home vs the Pats>>>>>>>>Raiders 30-Pats 24
    Commander (-4.5) at home vs the Giants>>Giants 20-WFT 12

    Doug….Bills(50), Jets, Raiders, Commanders>>>>>>1-3
    SC…Bills, Lions, Patriots (50), WFC>>>>>>>>>>>>>>1-3
    Fast Eddie…Dolphins, (47) Lions, Patriots, C’ders>>>>2-2
    csg bills44. lions. pats. giants>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2-2
    Bobf…Raiders, Bills,(48) commanders, jets>>>>>>>>>1-3
    Suitcase Jake…Dolphins..Lions..Raiders..C’ders – 45>3-1 Winner!

    SECOND HALF OF 2022 SEASON STANDINGS

    Winner Take All
    2 Fast Eddie
    1-Capt. Mike Qbvious
    1 csg
    1 Doug
    1 Suitcase Jake

    Cumulative Standings
    19-14 Fast Eddie
    18-15 csg
    18-15 Doug
    15-15 Suitcase Jake
    16-17 SC
    14-19 Bobf

  206. Suitcase Jake says

    Sad to say the boobs calling the plays are horrible..
    Since they didn’t want Tom anymore they are not even relevant in the NFL playoffs … that should hurt even more than the Las Vegas Lobotomy !!!
    Ship of fools . Bill is 79 – 83 without Tom Brady …It was Tom = Not Billy
    Patsies are getting everything they deserve….

  207. -there was the touchdown nullified because Belichick called a time out
    -followed by another touchdown nullified by a penalty. Then settling for a field goal.
    -the blocked punt that was a miscommunication as the play clock was being reset
    -plays like the screen pass on third down the Raiders set up to stop at 5 yards when the Pats needed 9
    -the last play Belichick could have said take a knee. Patricia could have reminded Jones to tell the huddle no laterals, no drama and we go to overtime.
    -Mac Jones 13 for 31 and a 52% QB rating against a horrible Raiders defense.

    I wouldn’t agree that the good years were all Brady. For me it was a symbiotic relationship between Kraft, Belichick and Brady that made it all possible. Kraft spared no expense giving the team what it needed. Belichick hired mostly good offensive coordinators that helped Brady develop while he himself was terrific on the defensive side.
    It’s all over boys. The Pats have the Bengals, Dolphins and Bills coming up and the best we can hope for is to be a spoiler. Patricia is a lame duck you have to feel sorry for the guy. What Belichick did over last winter which is essentially nothing as McDaniels took a lot of the coaches with him is inexplicable. Decided to keep his kid as de facto defensive coordinator while making his buddy who was a Super Bowl winning defensive coordinator the de facto offensive coordinator. Then streamlined the play book with the guy that was new to offensive football and tried a new running scheme only the most talented coaches seem to be able to execute well.
    Bill Belichick made it all possible. The highest paid coach in the NFL and by a lot. What the heck was he thinking?
    So what’s the consensus. Should the team get a real offensive coordinator with Belichick still coach and GM? Or is it time to erect the statue of Belichick and Brady in front of Gillette Stadium, clean house and hire a new coach to lead the team back to relevance hopefully.

  208. Its been the offense all year guys.
    For the most part, the d has been respectable sans stopping a running allen. But everyone has problems with that. Enough for the most part, to give the team a chance of staying in most contests. Sure, couple of bad games, injuries ect, but thats the same for all teams. On the whole, d respectable.
    Its the offense thats been horrible. You have a great offensive guy grooming a mac jones year one, who leaves (no knock on mcdaniels) and a crazy scheme for offense this year, with a second year mac, who has barely cut his teeth. New crazy system, new coaches/coordinators. Im no football genius, but no wonder why mac regressed this year. His first half yesterday stunk, but he improved significantly in the second half. Its the coaching and play calling that killed a lot of any progress mac was making yesterday, as it has a lot of this season. And boy, is mac frustrated, and it showed on those trips to the sidelines yesterday during the time outs.
    Now i cant tell you if mac “has it” or not, what ever “it” is, but without good play calling, coaching, and some decent offensive receivers around him that can create separation , its hard to develop on any team under those circumstances imo. There are way more problems with pats than mac here. Yeah, that will piss off all the “put zappe in” camp. With that being said, the season is gone as far as im concerned, put zappe in if thats what people think. Not sure that will be any different given the cast around him. Just too many issues, even if Brady were still here throwing the pigskin.
    So was it bill or was it tom? In my opinion, bill and tom were like Lennon and McCartney. Better together, a force to be reckoned with, than they are apart. Remember, brady had evans, gronk, founette and even his buddy he talked the bucs into taking on with all his baggage, around him for weapons, when he won with bucs. One guy cant do it all, got to have a multitude of pieces. Pieces the pats currently do not have.
    So i don’t know if its time to do the statue and then clean house, but i do know this. Kraft cannot be happy. Yet part of it is on kraft as well. I think its on the krafts to step up here, and make some “owner” decisions, whatever those decisions may be.
    And doug, way back before the season started, I think I told you 9-8 for Pats record was my pick before the season began. I sure am hearing that fat lady singing an awful lot this season! Oh well wait till next year I guess.
    Thx to all for reading if you did, and, jmo.

  209. Suitcase Jake says

    The 3 Teams coming up on the schedule are head and shoulders … Better teams and Quarterbacks and Offenses…. It would be hard for Patsies to win even one game.. Bill with his EGO just had no plan for Josh leaving…. Hell just put Matt & Joe in there they are good coaches…. LOL Run screen passes and pound it up the middle…LOL what a joke that Offense is…. Bring in Sean Payton and install His Offense and hire a D coach and start over …

  210. Well suitcase, all a good plan. But if that happens, that also takes time. New coaches and new systems just dont click overnight. I bet it takes at least 2 more seasons if that were to happen to see any results good or bad. I still dont know what we have in mac, as pieces around him including coaching, well, just plain sucks. Im not touting mac at all, im just not sure we are seeing what he really is, under current situation is all. So throw in baily see what happens. We kinda already did that. Started great, and ended, well, no so much great. No knock on zappe at this point, cause he is dealing with same circumstances. Im kind of on the “gotta get coaches” straightened out bandwagon. And if you do that, it takes a couple of seasons to see fruits of your labor. And that’s IF you have good players to coach!!! I’d like to say baseball is around the corner, but boy, the money has dried up there! Devers goes next. Thank goodness for modified racing!!!!

  211. NFL Pick 2 Week 16- Christmas Eve Deuces are Wild says

    NFL Pick 2 Week 16- Christmas Eve Deuces are Wild

    That’s right due to the Christmas holiday where we’ll all be busy with our own particular festivities and traditions a reduced load this week. Our beloved if bumbling Patriots vs the Bengals and a big match up with the Eagles visiting the Cowboys.
    Will the Pats with bad moral, dissension and continued inept coaching get blown out by the Bengals at home. Or with they rally as professionals and turn in a top effort with their pride at stake?
    Does anyone other then Fast Eddie have the marbles to take the Pats getting only a measly 3 points?

    Bengals (-3) at the Pats (Saturday)
    Cowboys (-4.5) at home vs the Eagles (Saturday)

    Don’t forget the total points. Your choice either game.

  212. Bengals (50), Cowboys

  213. Go Pats, and Cowboys 43

  214. Hope i can say this.
    Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukah, Happy New Year fellow Raceday CT brethren!!!
    Taking the Cowboys, Bengals (47)
    No marbles here. Just common football sense I hope. I think the Pats are mailing it in from this point on.

  215. doug….bengals, eagles (43)

  216. Suitcase Jake says

    Merry Christmas …
    Bengals 45 Cowboys

  217. Doug… Bengals (39), Eagles******Points team REVISED!

  218. Same to you Doug, and everyone else too!
    Patriots, Cowboys (47)

  219. NFL Pick 2 Week 16- Christmas Eve Deuces are Wild Results says

    NFL Pick 2 Week 16- Christmas Eve Deuces are Wild

    Bengals (-3) at the Pats >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bengals 22-Pats 18
    Cowboys (-4.5) at home vs Eagles>>> Cowboys 40-Eagles 34

    SC….Bengals (50), Cowboys>>>>>>>>>2-0 (+10)
    csg… Go Pats, and Cowboys 43>>>>>>>1-1
    Bobf….Cowboys, Bengals (47)>>>>>>>>2-0 (+7)
    Suitcase Jake…Bengals 45 Cowboys>>>2-0 (+5) Winner!!!
    Doug… Bengals (39), Eagles>>>>>>>>>1-1
    Fast Eddie…Patriots, Cowboys (47)>>>>>1-1

    SECOND HALF OF 2022 SEASON STANDINGS

    Winner Take All
    2 Fast Eddie
    2 Suitcase Jake
    1 csg
    1 Doug
    1 Suitcase Jake

    Cumulative Standings
    20-15 Fast Eddie
    19-16 csg
    19-16 Doug
    18-17 SC
    17-15 Suitcase Jake
    16-19 Bobf

    Congratulations to Suitcase Jake for the win and now shares the Winner Take All leader board with Fast Eddie.
    On tap for the final two weeks we’ll have the regular Pick 4 next week. For the final week the massive, straight up open for all games (excepting the Thursday night game) will return for the big finally. That will conclude the second half of the 2022 Pick 4 with the champions crowned then the playoff season with all 13 games in play if you’re game.
    Then it’s on to New Smyrna on February 11th, only 47 days away, can you believe it and back to those marvelous mods kicking off the 2023 season. Six features in 7 days highlighted by the NWMT opener.
    Thank you to the hard core 5 that stuck with the game and a special thanks to the guy that makes it all possible Mr. Courchesne.
    Seasons Greetings!

  220. What if?
    -What if the Pats could have found a way to beat an equally mediocre Raiders team.
    -what if Nick Folk had made his two extra point attempts and a third when the failed 2 point try was not necessary to make up for a missed point after already attempted.
    -what if the Pat’s could have ground the clock down at the Bengals 5 yard, 1 foot line then kicked a field goal if Folk had made the point after attempts.
    -with 5 yards, one foot to go and 4 downs to do it what if the Pats could have actually stolen a victory from a really good team leaving them cold and miserable instead of joyous at the very unlikely fumble recovery.
    -what if the Pats beat the Raiders and got the Bengals win they’d be solidly in the playoff picture with a fading Miami team coming to town with a shot to lock up a playoff spot.

    There was no Christmas miracle for the Pats my friends. Our little family Christmas Eve gathering wild with glee on the cusp of an unlikely win just over 5 yards away crushed as the Pats find yet another way to squander yet another golden opportunity.
    There’s no joy in Bean Town this day and yet the team still relevant and still in the playoff hunt if they can somehow shed their loser mentality and win a couple games no one expects them to win.
    The torture to continue for another week.

  221. I second that Doug, but may I also add, thanks to the guy that keeps all the interest up, does all the postings, tabulations, and generally, keeps it all going. I know it takes a lot if time, so Doog, thankyou!
    Dont forget guys, its time to think about making that support payment for those that can afford it, to racedayct, to keep this valuable resource going into the next year, and hopefully well into the future. Thank you Mr Courchesne, and Happy new years to all!

  222. NFL Pick 4-Week 17-Prelude to the final Brawl says

    NFL Pick 4-Week 17-Prelude to the final Brawl

    Dolphins (-2.5) at the Pats
    Giant (-3) at home vs the Colts
    Seahawks (-1) vs the Jets
    Bills (-1.5) at the Bengals

    The final brawl being next week when we pick every game excepting the Thursday night game straight up…….no points…… to determine the second half Winner Take All and Cumulative Points champions.

    Doug…..Dolphins, Giants, Seahawks (38), Bills

  223. Dolphins (45), Giants, Seahawks, Bengals

  224. Suitcase Jake says

    Patsies-Giants-Seahawks-Bengals 45

  225. csg pats 40, Giants, Seahawks, bills

  226. Dolphins, Giants, Seahawks, Bills (48)

  227. Patriots, Colts, Seahawks, Bengals (47)

  228. NFL Pick 4-Week 17 Roundup says

    NFL Pick 4-Week 17 Roundup

    Doug…..Dolphins, Giants, Seahawks (38), Bills
    SC……..Dolphins (45), Giants, Seahawks, Bengals
    Suitcase Jake…Patsies-Giants-Seahawks-Bengals 45
    csg….csg pats 40, Giants, Seahawks, bills
    Bobf…. Dolphins, Giants, Seahawks, Bills (48)
    Fast Eddie…Patriots, Colts, Seahawks, Bengals (47)

    Buckle up it’s showtime. You’d think picking straight up next week would be pretty easy….not so fast. A lot of games that are close that have a lot of significance there’s only one way to put it. Bring your A game.

  229. NFL Pick 4-Week 17 Results says

    NFL Pick 4-Week 17 Results

    Dolphins (-2.5) at the Pats>>>>>>>>>>Pats 23 -Dolphins 21
    Giant (-3) at home vs the Colts>>>>>>>Giants 38-Colts 10
    Seahawks (-1) vs the Jets>>>>>>>>>>Seahawks 23-Jets 6
    Bills (-1.5) at the Bengals>>>>>>>>>>Postponed

    Doug…..Dolphins, Giants, Seahawks (38), Bills>>>>>>>2-1
    SC……..Dolphins (45), Giants, Seahawks, Bengals>>>>2-1
    Suitcase Jake…Patsies-Giants-Seahawks-Bengals 45>3-0
    csg….csg pats 40, Giants, Seahawks, bills>>>>>>>>>>3-0
    Bobf…. Dolphins, Giants, Seahawks, Bills (48)>>>>>>>2-1
    Fast Eddie…Patriots, Colts, Seahawks, Bengals (47)>>2-1

    In view of Damar Hamlin’s life threatening injury and the game postponement seemed best to be respectful and wait on posting results. The latest indications are there has been some positive signs in Hamlin’s condition and the NFL is on to week 18 it appears as of this morning thus the results posting.
    For our purposes the Bills-Bengals game is dropped. No single winner can be determined because Suitcase Jake posted a total score for the postponed game. Therefore both csg and Suitcase Jake get credit for the Winner Take All win for week 17.

    Winner Take All
    3 Suitcase Jake
    2 Fast Eddie
    2 csg
    1 Doug

    Cumulative Standings
    20-15 Suitcase Jake
    22-16 Fast Eddie
    22-16 csg
    21-17 Doug
    20-18 SC
    18-20 Bobf

    Suitcase Jake after a slow start has won three weeks in a row, vaults in to first place in both the Winner Take All category and the best winning percentage in the Cumulative Standings.

  230. NFL Pick 4-Week 18 Big Finale says

    NFL Pick 4-Week 18 Big Finale

    Pick every game……straight up……….no points.
    Point spreads provided only to help you make your choices.

    Kansas City Chiefs (-9.5) vs. Las Vegas Raiders (+9.5)
    Tennessee Titans (+6.5) vs. Jacksonville Jaguars (-6.5)
    Tampa Bay Buccaneers (+8) vs. Atlanta Falcons (-8)
    New England Patriots (+7.5) vs. Buffalo Bills (-7.5)
    Minnesota Vikings (-2) vs. Chicago Bears (+2)
    Baltimore Ravens (+7) vs. Cincinnati Bengals (-7)
    Detroit Lions (+4.5) vs. Green Bay Packers (-4.5)
    Houston Texans (+3) vs. Indianapolis Colts (-3)
    New York Jets (+3) vs. Miami Dolphins (-3)
    Carolina Panthers (+4.5) vs. New Orleans Saints (-4.5)
    New York Giants (+13.5) vs. Philadelphia Eagles (-13.5)
    Cleveland Browns (+2.5) vs. Pittsburgh Steelers (-2.5)
    Dallas Cowboys (-5.5) vs. Washington Commanders (+5.5)
    Los Angeles Chargers (-3) vs. Denver Broncos (+3)
    Los Angeles Rams (+6.5) vs. Seattle Seahawks (-6.5)
    Arizona Cardinals (+13.5) vs. San Francisco 49ers (-13.5)

    If you could please put the picks in the order you find them here to make scoring easier it would be very much appreciated.

  231. Chiefs (48), Jaguars, Buccaneers, Bills, Bears, Bengals, Packers, Texans, Dolphins, Panthers, Eagles, Steelers, Cowboys, Chargers, Seahawks, 49ers.

  232. Suitcase Jake says

    Chiefs, Jaguars, Buccaneers, Bills, Vikings, Bengals, Packers, Texans, Dolphins, Panthers, Giants, Steelers, Cowboys, Chargers, Seahawks, 49ers
    Thank Doug for all you do !! It is appreciated by US ALL !!

  233. Fast Eddie says

    Thanks Doug, great job with this!
    Chiefs, Titans, Bucs, Pats, Vikings, Ravens, Packers, Texans, Miami, Panthers,Eagles, Browns, Washington, Broncos, Rams, 49ers.

  234. NFL Week 18 Big Finale-Oops! says

    Apologies, please pick the total score on any ONE of the games for the tie breaker.

  235. csg

    Kansas City Chiefs
    Jacksonville Jaguars (-6.5)
    ATL
    New England Patriots (+7.5)
    Minnesota Vikings (-2)
    Cincinnati Bengals (-7)
    Green Bay Packers (-4.5)
    Houston Texans (+3)
    New York Jets (+3)
    New Orleans Saints (-4.5)
    Philadelphia Eagles (-13.5)
    Cleveland Browns (+2.5
    Dallas Cowboys (-5.5)
    Los Angeles Chargers (-3)
    Seattle Seahawks (-6.5)
    San Francisco 49ers (-13.5)

    Really tough week. I kind of wish we were picking with spread make some of these picks more palatable. If I have it figured out right. I need to pick the pats to very unlikely beat the Bills. Then if for some reason that doesnt work out I need the Dolphins to lose and I believe the Steelers to lose so the Pats can back door into the playoffs. If the Pats make it I believe they would likely get another game against the Bills in Bufalo. So not an easy road. If I wasn’t a pats fan I would pick the opposite on all 3 games. So you say there is a chance. Shock the world. Book the flight to the AZ now before airfare goes up. Championship.

    seriously thanks for taking the time and doing this. Having run some of these in the past I know its a bit of a nuisance and time commitment

  236. Doug…Chiefs, Jags, Falcons, Bills, Vikings, Bengals, Lions, Texans(28), Jets, Saints, Eagles, Steelers, Cowboys, Chargers, Seahawks, Niners

  237. Appreciate the mentions but to be honest with copy and past it’s not that hard or time consuming. Very appreciative of the five guys that have stuck with it. It’s produced some interesting results. Suitcase Jake was mired down in the standings, wins three in a row and now is the guy with a target on his back. But he’ll have to earn it because this free for all with 16 picks on the line is like the college exam that counts for a third of your final grade.
    Pretty amazing the Pat’s are still in it they surely are not a playoff caliber team. The atmosphere up in Orchard Park will be electric not so much for the game but it’s meaning for the Bills. Mother nature crapping on them, Hamiln’s dealth and revival and the Bills may not even get a chance to compete for the number one seed in the playoffs. I’m thinking the Bills will be absolutely focused on Sunday, the Pats over matched and the result probably the way it should be Pats fan or not.
    Please don’t forget to get your total score prediction in for any one of the games to make sure we don’t end up in a tie.
    36 days to the opener at New Smyrna!

  238. Thank you Doug.
    Cheifs, Jags, Falcons, Bills, Vikings, Bengals,(44) Packers, Texans, Dolphins, Panthers, Eagles, Steelers, Cowboys , chargers, Seahawks, 49’ers.

  239. Suitcase Jake says

    Dallas -45

  240. NFL Pick 4-Week 18 Big Finale Roundup says

    NFL Pick 4-Week 18 Big Finale Roundup

    SC…..Chiefs (48), Jaguars, Buccaneers, Bills, Bears, Bengals, Packers, Texans, Dolphins, Panthers, Eagles, Steelers, Cowboys, Chargers, Seahawks, 49ers.

    Suitcase Jake….Chiefs, Jaguars, Buccaneers, Bills, Vikings, Bengals, Packers, Texans, Dolphins, Panthers, Giants, Steelers, Cowboys (45), Chargers, Seahawks, 49ers

    Fast Eddie….Chiefs, Titans, Bucs, Pats, Vikings, Ravens, Packers, Texans, Miami, Panthers,Eagles, Browns, Washington, Broncos, Rams, 49ers
    ****Total score for one game please

    Doug…Chiefs, Jags, Falcons, Bills, Vikings, Bengals, Lions, Texans(28), Jets, Saints, Eagles, Steelers, Cowboys, Chargers, Seahawks, Niners

    Bobf….Cheifs, Jags, Falcons, Bills, Vikings, Bengals,(44) Packers, Texans, Dolphins, Panthers, Eagles, Steelers, Cowboys , chargers, Seahawks, 49’ers.
    ****Is the (44) for the Bengals or Packers game Bobf????????

    csg….Chiefs, Jags, Falcons, Pats, Vikings, Bengals, Packers,Texans, Jets, Saints, Eagles, Browns, Cowboys, Chargers, Seahawks, 49ers
    ****Total score for one game please

  241. pats 43 thanks for the reminder

  242. Fast Eddie says

    Packers (47) Thanks Doug!

  243. Sorry doug. 44 is for bengals. Ty.

  244. NFL PICK 4- WEEK 18 FINALE ROUNDUP says

    NFL Pick 4-Week 18 Big Finale Roundup

    SC…..Chiefs (48), Jaguars, Buccaneers, Bills, Bears, Bengals, Packers, Texans, Dolphins, Panthers, Eagles, Steelers, Cowboys, Chargers, Seahawks, 49ers.

    Suitcase Jake….Chiefs, Jaguars, Buccaneers, Bills, Vikings, Bengals, Packers, Texans, Dolphins, Panthers, Giants, Steelers, Cowboys (45), Chargers, Seahawks, 49ers

    Fast Eddie….Chiefs, Titans, Bucs, Pats, Vikings, Ravens, Packers (47), Texans, Miami, Panthers,Eagles, Browns, Washington, Broncos, Rams, 49ers

    Doug…Chiefs, Jags, Falcons, Bills, Vikings, Bengals, Lions, Texans(28), Jets, Saints, Eagles, Steelers, Cowboys, Chargers, Seahawks, Niners

    Bobf….Cheifs, Jags, Falcons, Bills, Vikings, Bengals(44) , Packers, Texans, Dolphins, Panthers, Eagles, Steelers, Cowboys , chargers, Seahawks, 49’ers.

    csg….Chiefs, Jags, Falcons, Pats(43), Vikings, Bengals, Packers,Texans, Jets, Saints, Eagles, Browns, Cowboys, Chargers, Seahawks, 49ers

    It’s showtime boys. Good luck!

  245. NFL Pick 4-Week 18 and 2022 Second Segment Champion Results says

    NFL Pick 4-Week 18 and 2022 Second Segment Champion Results

    Winning List: Chiefs, Jags, Falcons, Bills, Vikings, Bengals, Lions, Texans, Dolphins, Panthers, Eagles, Steelers, Commanders, Broncos, Seahawks, Niners

    SC…..Chiefs (48), Jaguars, Buccaneers, Bills, Bears, Bengals, Packers, Texans, Dolphins, Panthers, Eagles, Steelers, Cowboys, Chargers, Seahawks, 49ers.
    11-5

    Suitcase Jake….Chiefs, Jaguars, Buccaneers, Bills, Vikings, Bengals, Packers, Texans, Dolphins, Panthers, Giants, Steelers, Cowboys (45), Chargers, Seahawks, 49ers
    11-5

    Fast Eddie….Chiefs, Titans, Bucs, Pats, Vikings, Ravens, Packers (47), Texans, Miami, Panthers,Eagles, Browns, Washington, Broncos, Rams, 49ers
    9-7

    Doug…Chiefs, Jags, Falcons, Bills, Vikings, Bengals, Lions, Texans(28), Jets, Saints, Eagles, Steelers, Cowboys, Chargers, Seahawks, Niners
    12-4

    Bobf….Cheifs, Jags, Falcons, Bills, Vikings, Bengals(44) , Packers, Texans, Dolphins, Panthers, Eagles, Steelers, Cowboys , chargers, Seahawks, 49’ers.
    13-3 *******WINNER*********

    csg….Chiefs, Jags, Falcons, Pats(43), Vikings, Bengals, Packers,Texans, Jets, Saints, Eagles, Browns, Cowboys, Chargers, Seahawks, 49ers
    9-7

    Winner Take All
    3 Suitcase Jake
    2 Fast Eddie
    2 csg
    1 Bobf
    1 Doug

    Cumulative Standings
    Record-Player-(Winning %)

    33-21 Doug (61.1%)
    31-20 Suitcase Jake (60.8%)
    31-23 SC (57.4%)
    31-23Fast Eddie (57.4%)
    31-23csg (57.4%)
    31-23 Bobf (57.4%)

    That’s it for the second segment of the 2022 NFL Pick 4 Contest.
    Bobf takes down an impressive final Winner Take All win failing on only 3 of his week 18 picks. Suitcase Jake is our Winner Take All second segment champ with 3 wins and misses out on the Cumulative Championship by a few tenths of a percent in winning percentage to yours truly.

    Wednesday morning I’ll propose a Playoff Game Pick challenge if you’re not too exhausted to participate in one more round. In a nutshell it will be one SUPER WINNER as each player accumulates points in the four playoff weekends culminating in the Super Bowl for a total of 13 games. It will be with the point spread in play and you’ll pick one total score to break a tie in the SUPER BOWL only. I’ll need at least 4 other players to sign on plus myself. If we can’t get that participation I’ll consider it a bridge too far and we’ll call it a wrap.
    Thanks to all for playing!

  246. Thanks for all the weekly work it took to do this Doug. I for one will tell you, it gave me something to look forward to, particularly some of the weekly “twists” you put forth. I definitely enjoyed that part of it. Count me in for playoffs if you decide to do that as well.
    At week 8, I picked Vikings- Bills for super-bowl opponents. Right now that’s all I have to look forward to, unless a square or 2 comes my way.
    I’d be remiss not to thank the host of this website for allowing and maintaining this dedicated link, for us to participate in. Thank you Shawn. Good luck to all in the finals if they happen!

  247. Suitcase Jake says

    YES YES YES to “PLAYOFF’S”
    Thank you to all who played along .. Special Thank’s to Shawn for giving US a Spot on the main Page to keep it easy to get to the Racing Pool & Football Pool ….Special thanks to Doug for all your hard work banging keys and counting fingers and toes… LOL HAVE FUN = BE HAPPY in 2023 ….
    Looking Forward to Playoffs…. SUPER POOL picking games all the way to the BIG GAME sounds like GREAT FUN… !!

  248. THE NFL PLAYOFFS CONTEST-LITTLE HELP PLEASE?? says

    Apologies but I’m out of control at this stage coming up with all these variations. Can someone please reel me in?
    I’ve got three possible candidates for a contest and only one chance to make it the one we use.
    COMMENTS AND PREFERENCES PLEASE, ALONG WITH ANY SUGGESTIONs FOR TWISTS?????

    PLAN A (Team Concept)

    Football is a team sport so we break into two teams. SC, Suitcase Jake and Fast Eddie team SHIRTS. Bobf, csg and myself team SKINS. Those teams selected simply by the first letter in each screen ID in alphabetical order no subjectivity involved. Here’s how it would work.
    Each team member picks the games USING the PUBLISHED POINT SPREAD. Each teams cumulative score is logged by round to carry over to the next rounds games. First round every game is worth one point, second round 2 points per pick, third round 3 points per pick and the Super Bowl 6 points.
    The only thing is you have to continue to pick as conservatively or risky as you always do discounting the team dynamic.

    PLAN B (Straight up with risky picks getting bigger rewards if you hit)

    No points, all games picked straight up. You get a field goal for picking the favorite by the points spread and a touchdown (6 points) for picking any underdog with a point spread OVER 4 points. As an example the only teams eligible for a touchdown the first week would be the Seahawks (+10), Dolphins (+10.5), Ravens (+6.5). Every round scored like this including the Super Bowl. For a tie breaker pick the total score of any ONE game in any round. Should we end up tied after the Super Bowl the total score you logged at any point along the way will determine if you are the last man standing.
    Point spread only used to determine teams eligible for a touchdown otherwise you’re picking straight up.

    PLAN C (Keep it simple)

    All games picked USING the published POINT SPREADS. First round games worth 1 point per correct pick, second round worth 2 points per pick, third round 3 points. Super Bowl pick worth 6 points plus you provide a total score to break the tie.

  249. I like Plan C.

  250. THE NFL PLAYOFFS CONTEST says

    Thanks for the direction. It’s the only thing that makes sense and I’m pretty sure the other fella’s will feel the same way respecting the owner of the dance hall.
    I’d just ask if anyone has any twists or changes they’d make to Plan C before we make it official ????

  251. Suitcase Jake says

    I think “C” is the way to go …..Points should be odd numbers to help to reduce ties…. 1….3……5……7……

  252. Fast Eddie says

    As the Three Stooges would say, “One for all, all for one, and every man for himself!” Nothing against our keyboard cohorts, but in football I may be more of a detriment than a help to a “football team” so “Plan C” sounds good to me also.

  253. OK then. Plan C, 1,3,5 and 7 it is. I’ll write it up tomorrow morning with the latest spreads.
    Thanks!

  254. Doug.
    If i may.
    With this weekends twists, i’d like to see a bonus point added to anybodys score, if they pick. correct super bowl opponents.
    2 people pick same teams? No issue, both get the extra bonus point. Plan c for me as well. Like it. Let the fun begin!!!!!!!

  255. NFL PLAYOFFS LAST PERSON STANDING CONTEST WITH NEWCOMER BONUS says

    NFL PLAYOFFS LAST PERSON STANDING CONTEST WITH NEWCOMER BONUS

    49er’s (-9.5) at home vs Seahawks
    Chargers (-1.5) at the Jags
    Bills (-9.5) at home vs the Dolphins
    Vikings (-3) at home vs the Giants
    Bengals (-7) at home vs the Ravens
    Cowboys (-2.5) at the Bucs

    Rules
    -All games picked USING the published POINT SPREADS appearing today on YAHOO.
    -6 first round games worth 1 point each, 4 second round games 3 points each, 2 third round games 5 points each and the Super Bowl is worth 7 points.
    -no weekly winner this is a LAST PERSON STANDING contest. All scores roll over until the Super Bowl is in the books and there is only one LAST PERSON STANDING.
    -TIE BREAKER-there are 13 total games. Pick the total score for and ONE game and that becomes your tie breaker. Pick it the first week or wait until the Super Bowl your choice but only ONE GAME.

    COME ON BABY, LETS DO THE TWIST

    ***Bobf BONUS-BEFORE THIS WEEKENDS GAMES pick the TWO teams you think will end up playing in the Super Bowl. Get them right and 3 points will be added to your final total score.

    ***OPTIONAL BET 3—–for risk takers only!! At any point you can gamble 3 of your points earned or in the first week points you will earn on a bet. The bet is the favorite in any game has to win by MORE then TWICE the published point spread.
    (Example: Bet the Vikings-Giants games and if the Vikings win by 7 points or more you win 3 points).
    Be careful however because if they fail you get 3 points deducted from your score.
    Bet any ONE game at any time UP TO THE SUPER BOWL or bet none at all your choice. SUPER BOWL EXCLUDED!

    ***NEWCOMER BONUS-any person that has not played in our NFL pick contests is eligible for the NEWCOMER BONUS-to win the bonus the NEWCOMER has to pick all four games correctly in the SECOND ROUND games using the published POINTS SPREADS. If they do get ALL FOUR GAMES correct two points will be added to their score.

    NOTE: it’s early. All the above rules and bonus’s are subject to change. If you see something that doesn’t make sense please feel free suggest a change.

  256. 49er’s, Chargers, Bills, Vikings, Bengals, Bucaneers (42)

    49er’s vs. Chiefs in the Super Bowl

  257. csg 49ers, chargers, bills, vikings, bengals double up, bucs take the bills and philly for my superbowl picks.

  258. NFL Playoffs Contest-Question for csg? says

    “bengals double up”
    Is that your one Bet 3??

  259. Seahawk, Chargers (47), Dolphins, Vikings, Bengals, Cowboys
    Superbowl: Chiefs and Eagles

  260. Doug;
    Hmm. Playing spreads, so a little out side box here, as there are some serious points on a few of these. Ill probably get my butt handed to me, but here goes..
    Seahawks, Jags (44) , Bills, Vikings,Bengals, Cowboys
    So at week 8 I picked Vikings and Bills for superbowl. While I’m not sure of that now, I’d hate to go against myself, bad mojo!
    So superbowl, Bills and Vikings. Good luck everybody!!!

  261. Doug…..Seahawks, Chargers, Bills, Giants, Ravens, Bucs
    Super Bowl……49’ers vs the Bills

  262. NFL PLAYOFF CONTEST BET 3 REVISED says

    BET 3 REVISED

    ***OPTIONAL BET 3—–for risk takers only!! At any point you can gamble 3 of your points earned or in the first week points you will earn, on a bet. The bet is the favorite in any game has to win by MORE then TWICE the published point spread. (example: pick the Bengals-Ravens game and the Bengals have to win by more then 14 points to win 3 points. They don’t you forfeit 3 points)

    PART THAT IS ADDED
    “Only games with a point spread of 4 or more qualify. In first round only the 49ers-Seahawks, Bills-Dolphins and Bengal-Ravens games eligible for the BET 3.”

    Be careful however because if they fail you get 3 points deducted from your score.
    Bet any ONE game at any time UP TO THE SUPER BOWL or bet none at all your choice. SUPER BOWL EXCLUDED!

  263. Suitcase Jake says

    49’ers Jags Bills Giants Bengals Cowboys
    Super Bowl 49’ers – Bengals

  264. I am going to withdraw my double up bet on the Bengals. It looks like Lamar Jackson might play. When I put that in Google said he wasnt. All other picks are the same.

    49ers, chargers, bills, Vikings, Bengals, Bucs. Superbowl.bills and philly.

  265. NFL PLAYOFFS CONTEST-WILD CARD WEEKEND ROUNDUP says

    NFL PLAYOFFS CONTEST-WILD CARD WEEKEND ROUNDUP

    SC…..49er’s, Chargers, Bills, Vikings, Bengals, Bucaneers (42)
    49er’s vs. Chiefs in the Super Bowl

    csg……9ers, chargers, bills, Vikings, Bengals, Bucs.
    Superbowl.bills and philly.

    Fast Eddie….Seahawk, Chargers (47), Dolphins, Vikings, Bengals, Cowboys
    Superbowl: Chiefs and Eagles

    Bobf….Seahawks, Jags (44) , Bills, Vikings,Bengals, Cowboys
    So superbowl, Bills and Vikings

    Doug…..Seahawks, Chargers, Bills, Giants, Ravens, Bucs
    Super Bowl……49’ers vs the Bills

    Suitcase Jake….49’ers Jags Bills Giants Bengals Cowboys
    Super Bowl 49’ers – Bengals

    Odds are very high someone will win the Super Bowl Picks Bonus.
    Good call Bobf!

  266. NFL PLAYOFF CONTEST-ROUND ONE RESULTS UPDATE says

    NFL PLAYOFF CONTEST-ROUND ONE RESULTS UPDATE

    49er’s (-9.5) at home vs Seahawks>>(49ers) 41-Seahawks 23
    Chargers (-1.5) at the Jags>>>>>>>> (Jags) 31-Chargers 30
    Bills (-9.5) at home vs the Dolphins> Bills 34-(Dolphins) 31
    Vikings (-3) at home vs the Giants>> (Giants) 31-Vikings 24
    Bengals (-7) at home vs the Ravens> Bengals 24-Ravens 17-PUSH
    Cowboys (-2.5) at the Bucs>>>>>>>(Cowboys) 31-Bucs 14

    ***Bengals-Ravens a push- no bet***

    SC…..49er’s, Chargers, Bills, Vikings, Bengals, Bucaneers (42)
    49er’s vs. Chiefs in the Super Bowl
    1-4
    Tie breaker game and points-Cowbows/Bucs (42) (-3)
    Bet 3-available
    Super Bowl picks-still in the hunt

    csg……9ers, chargers, bills, Vikings, Bengals, Bucs.
    Superbowl.bills and philly.
    1-4
    Tie Breaker game and points-none selected so far
    Bet 3-available
    Super Bowl Picks-still in the hunt.

    Fast Eddie….Seahawk, Chargers (47), Dolphins, Vikings, Bengals, Cowboys
    Superbowl: Chiefs and Eagles
    2-3
    Tie Breaker game and points-Jags-Chargers (47) (-14)
    Bet 3-available
    Super Bowl picks-still in the hunt

    Bobf….Seahawks, Jags (44) , Bills, Vikings,Bengals, Cowboys
    So superbowl, Bills and Vikings
    2-3
    Tie Breaker game and points-Jags/Chargers (44) (-17)
    Bet 3-available
    Super Bowl picks-Vikings lose, out of the hunt

    Doug…..Seahawks, Chargers, Bills, Giants, Ravens, Bucs
    Super Bowl……49’ers vs the Bills
    1-4
    Tie Breaker game and points-none selected so far
    Bet 3-available
    Super Bowl picks-still in the hunt

    Suitcase Jake….49’ers Jags Bills Giants Bengals Cowboys
    Super Bowl 49’ers – Bengals
    4-1
    Tie breaker game and points-none selected so far
    Bet 3-available
    Super Bowl picks-still in the hunt

    After the first round games Suitcase Jake jumps out to a commanding lead. Should SC tie someone in total points after the Super Bowl he’ll be hard to beat in the tie breaker only off 3 points in the Bucs/Cowboys game. Unfortunately the Vikings lost so the creator of the Super Bowl bonus Bobf ironically ends up being the first to no longer qualify for the 3 point bonus.
    Now it gets real interesting. In the second round each game now worth 3 points effectively more then doubling the points up for grabs compared to round one. Can Suitcase Jake maintain his lead? We’ll find out but with so many points up for grabs that commanding lead will evaporate quickly if he isn’t on his game.
    A couple of the games next week look very attractive for taking the Bet 3 plunge risking the 3 point bonus or digging a deeper hole if you lose. Everyone still has that desparation play still in their hip pocket so we’ll see if anyone has the chops to pull it out and plop it down on the table.
    25 days to the opener at New Smyrna.
    30 tour mods registered for the opens as of this morning. 10% of the field Catalano’s and no Hirschman at least so far.

  267. So close to the golden Goose Egg. I am going to keep firing at it, but so far the imperfect week has been elusive. Did it seem like all the games stunk this weekend. I think I started to watch all of them and didn’t see the end of any of them. I guess a few of them became interesting but I was already on to something else.

  268. CSG,
    I didn’t think it was the greatest batch of playoff games ever, but I’d hardly say all the games stunk. The Jaguars/Chargers game looked awful at the start but turned out to be an instant classic with the Jaguars rallying to win. Bills/Dolphins game looked like it was going to be a blowout in the first quarter and then the Dolphins had a crazy second quarter rally and the second half was very good. The Vikings/Giants game was fairly tight most of the way. Bengals/Ravens was a nailbiter. The Monday night Cowboys/Bucaneers game wasn’t great, but it wasn’t awful either. 49er’s/Seahawks was ho-hum.

  269. Are you remembering correctly? Wildcard weekend often turns in stinkers. Last year we all know the Pat’s got embarrassed. The Bucs blew out the Eagles, Rams spanked the Cards and the Steelers weren’t competitive with the Chiefs at all. This year 5 out of 6 had interesting elements and 4 out of 6 were in doubt in the forth quarter.
    I can’t be the only one getting a little extra interest factor from our little contest. Thought I was brilliant when the Seahawks looked real competitive at the start then as they say in racing the cream definitely rose to the top. Chargers looked like a lock at halftime. Seriosly how do you come back from 4 interceptions to win?
    Sorry but I’m glad I had company stinking up the joint on my picks. You’d think the Wild Card round would be easier.

  270. NFL PLAYOFFS LAST PERSON STANDING CONTEST ROUND 2 says

    NFL PLAYOFFS LAST PERSON STANDING CONTEST ROUND 2

    Chiefs (-8.5) at home vs the Jags
    Eagles (-7.5) at home vs the Giants
    Bills (-4.5) at home vs the Bengals
    Niners (-3.5) at home vs the Cowboys

    ***ALL GAMES FOR THIS ROUND WORTH 3 POINT***
    ***Niners/Cowboys only game that does NOT qualify for the Bet 3***

    Doug….Chiefs, Giants, Bills, Niners(51).

  271. Jaguars, Eagles, Bengals, 49er’s.

  272. Fast Eddie says

    Chiefs, Eagles, Bengals, 49ers.

  273. These picks do help keep me somewhat interested in the games but not having the home team playing or fantasy football really causes me to tune out. I ended up watching Flo racing most of Saturday I had the Chili Bowl and Wild West shootout on the laptop with the Bruins on the tv checking in on the Jags game. I am finding the NFL broadcasts with all the commercials getting tougher to watch. I did see some of the Sunday games. The Bills game was a lot better than expected but it was tough watching the Phins in that game. I think that was the only game I watched the whole thing. I started watching the Bucs game but gave up by halftime. There are a couple of good qbs getting started this weekend and no chili Bowl to distract me. So I may have renewed interest, I am probably rooting for the Bills to win it all just because that city has suffered some tough losses over the years. I wouldnt mind seeing them get one.

    csg Jags Giants Bills 49ers

  274. Suitcase Jake says

    Chiefs Giants Bengals Cowboys

  275. So doug;
    A lot of fun. Even losing, I’m having a ball saying “I got that one”, or more often than not saying “aw crap”. Still all good!
    Tough spreads this weekend for picks. Hardest to me is Bills bengals. So I’m gonna chicken out and let the spreads do the pickin!, cause just too close for me to call!

    KC, Eagles, Bills (48), 49’ers.
    Thanks!

  276. NFL PLAYOFFS LAST PERSON STANDING CONTEST ROUNDUP says

    NFL PLAYOFFS LAST PERSON STANDING CONTEST ROUNDUP

    Doug….Chiefs, Giants, Bills, Niners(51)
    SC…..Jaguars, Eagles, Bengals, 49er’s
    Fast Eddie…Chiefs, Eagles, Bengals, 49ers
    csg….Jags Giants Bills 49ers
    Suitcase Jake…Chiefs Giants Bengals Cowboys
    Bobf…KC, Eagles, Bills (48), 49’ers.

    “-TIE BREAKER-there are 13 total games. Pick the total score for and ONE game and that becomes your tie breaker. Pick it the first week or wait until the Super Bowl your choice but only ONE GAME.”

    -csg and Suitcase Jake have not provided a total score tie breaker yet
    -Bobf picked his in the first round so the one immediately above is disallowed.

  277. Got it doug. Thank you for getting me straight on that. Appreciate it.
    Good luck all!

  278. NFL PLAYOFFS CONTEST ROUND 2 RESULTS says

    NFL PLAYOFFS CONTEST ROUND 2 RESULTS

    Chiefs (-8.5) at home vs the Jags>>>>>>>Chiefs 27-(Jags 20)
    Eagles (-7.5) at home vs the Giants>>>>>(Eagles 38)-Giants 7
    Bills (-4.5) at home vs the Bengals>>>>>>(Bengals 27)-Bills 10
    Niners (-3.5) at home vs the Cowboys>>>>(Niners 19)-Cowboys 12

    SC…..Jaguars, Eagles, Bengals, 49er’s
    49er’s vs. Chiefs in the Super Bowl
    Points-13
    Tie breaker game and points-Cowbows/Bucs (42) (-3)
    Bet 3-available
    Super Bowl picks-still in the hunt

    Fast Eddie…Chiefs, Eagles, Bengals, 49ers
    Superbowl: Chiefs and Eagles
    Points 11
    Tie Breaker game and points-Jags-Chargers (47) (-14)
    Bet 3-available
    Super Bowl picks-still in the hunt

    Bobf…KC, Eagles, Bills (48), 49’ers.
    So superbowl, Bills and Vikings
    Points 8
    Tie Breaker game and points-Jags/Chargers (44) (-17)
    Bet 3-available
    Super Bowl picks-Vikings lose, out of the hunt

    csg….Jags Giants Bills 49ers
    Superbowl.bills and philly.
    Points 7
    Tie Breaker game and points-none selected so far
    Bet 3-available
    Super Bowl Picks-Bills lose-out of the hunt

    Suitcase Jake…Chiefs Giants Bengals Cowboys
    Super Bowl 49’ers – Bengals
    Points 7
    Tie breaker game and points-none selected so far
    Bet 3-available
    Super Bowl picks-still in the hunt

    Doug….Chiefs, Giants, Bills, Niners(51)
    Super Bowl……49’ers vs the Bills
    Points 4
    Tie Breaker game and points Niner/Cowboys (51) (-20)
    Bet 3-available
    Super Bowl picks-Bills lose-out of the hunt

    Please note, no more losses in your scores it’s all about the points now.
    SC vaults into first place logging perfection in round two. In a commanding position still in the hunt for the Super Bowl picks bonus and a tie breaker point spread that no one has come close to yet.
    Not so fast. Two games to pick next week, worth 5 points each so things can change dramatically once again. It’s hard to argue the fact the 4 best teams will be vying for the two Super Bowl spots and picking two winners from the 4 will not be easy.

  279. NFL PLAYOFFS CONTEST-CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP GAMES says

    NFL PLAYOFFS CONTEST-CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP GAMES

    Eagles (-2.5) at home vs the Niners
    Bengals (-1.5) at the Chiefs

    -Each game is worth 5 points for this round. Three games left, 17 total points still up for grabs so everyone is still statistically alive for the win.
    -Reminder-csg and Suitcase Jake have not provided a total score tie breaker to this point.
    Good luck!

  280. 49ers, Chiefs.

  281. Eagles and Chiefs

  282. Bengals and Niners

  283. Suitcase Jake says

    Philly Eagles< 45 Total points<< Cinn Bengals < BET 3<< Bengals

  284. Eagles, bengals

  285. NFL PLAYOFFS CONTEST-CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP GAMES ROUNDUP says

    NFL PLAYOFFS CONTEST-CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP GAMES ROUNDUP

    SC….49ers, Chiefs.
    Fast Eddie…Eagles and Chiefs
    Doug…Bengals and Niners
    Suitcase Jake…Philly Eagles< 45 Total points [<< Cinn Bengals < BET 3<< Bengals]
    ***BET 3<<Bengals disallowed. Please see post January 12, 2023 at 5:54 pm. Minimum points spread had to be 4 points to qualify for the Bet 3.***
    Bobf….Eagles, bengals
    csg…..

  286. csg philly cincy 50

  287. NFL PLAYOFFS CONTEST-CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP ROUND RESULTS says

    NFL PLAYOFFS CONTEST-CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP ROUND RESULTS

    Eagles (-2.5) at home vs the Niners>>>Eagles 31-Niners 7
    Bengals (-1.5) at the Chiefs>>>>>>>>>Chiefs 23-Bengals 20

    Fast Eddie…Eagles and Chiefs
    Superbowl: Chiefs and Eagles *****WINNER****
    Points 24
    Tie Breaker game and points-Jags-Chargers (47) (-14)

    SC…..49ers, Chiefs
    49er’s vs. Chiefs in the Super Bowl
    Points-18
    Tie breaker game and points-Cowbows/Bucs (42) (-3)

    Bobf…Eagles, bengals
    So superbowl, Bills and Vikings
    Points 13
    Tie Breaker game and points-Jags/Chargers (44) (-17)

    csg…philly cincy 50
    Superbowl.bills and philly.
    Points 12
    Tie Breaker game and points-cincy-chiefs (50) (+7)

    Suitcase Jake…Philly Eagles< 45 Total points << Cinn Bengals
    Super Bowl 49’ers – Bengals
    Points 7
    Tie breaker game and points-Eagles-Niners (45) (-7)

    Doug…Bengals and Niners
    Super Bowl……49’ers vs the Bills
    Points 4
    Tie Breaker game and points Niner/Cowboys (51) (-20)

    Perfection has struck again. This time by Fast Eddie, the only player to get this rounds winners correct PLUS wins the Bobf 3 point bonus for getting the Super Bowl teams correct.
    With 7 points up for grabs in the Super Bowl game only SC has a statistical chance of beating the point leader.
    Good luck to you both!

  288. Thanks Doug, for a guy that casually follows football, I’m amazed at these results! Chiefs and Eagles looked awful good during the seaon, and once in a while the #1 and #2 teams end up in the final round! Just to be official, I’ll take the Eagles in the Superbowl.

  289. Suitcase Jake says

    Nice Job Fast Eddie ….Doug i think I should be at 12pts.. Eagles Won and covered 7 + 5 = 12 … Thanks

  290. Apologies. I’ll make the correction when we do the final post Super Bowl tallies.

  291. NFL Playoff Contest-Super Bowl Finale says

    NFL Playoff Contest-Super Bowl Finale

    Eagle (-1.5) vs the Chiefs

    Fast Eddie……Eagles
    Doug………….Eagles

    7 points are in play for our final game.
    Only one of two players can win our contest but everyone excepting your’s truly who has a lock on last place can jump to second in the final standing depending on how the picks fall.
    Good luck!

  292. Chiefs

  293. Suitcase Jake says

    Eagles
    I think,,… LOL …. Eagles are the stronger TEAM on both sides of the BALL, & with Patrick Mahomes II # 15 not 100 % they will try and keep him in the pocket and limit his roll outs and runs….Jalen Hurts will be able to do the RUN PASS OPTIONS that are a HUGE CHALLENGE for any Defence to cover , This fact I think will be the Difference in the SUPER BOWL … Interested in other guys ” thought’s on the game” ????

  294. I don’t think I can catch the leader here thanks to some solid picking in earlier rounds. I will take KC over the philly cheese steaks. I do like a good cheese steak but I love that point and a half more. I was going to flip a quarter to make my pick but decided to go with the points and experience of having been there before over a better team and an obnoxious fan base. Some may say I haven’t gotten over that Flyer victory over the bruins in 2010 playoffs….and I would say they are probably right. You also have the Philly Superbowl over the pats in 2018. Philly has ruined a few sporting events for me in the past. Honestly, I don’t care who wins lets just have a good game. Expect a spike in Rihanna album sales Monday. Enjoy the game.

  295. Wondering if anyone is paying attention to the changes the Pats are making. Bill O’Brien a solid OC with a ton of experience is a real good move don’t you think? Adrian Klemm who is leaving Oregon with a really good reputation should help mold a more effective offensive line for next year. I don’t know if Kraft is behind all this but we all saw what he did last year which was a very unPatriot looking team. Who knows if it will produce more wins but at least the receivers should not be running into each other like last year.
    On October 23rd the Chiefs ran up 44 points on a very good Niners defense and Mahomes had 423 yards passing and a 132 QB rating. Mahomes like it or not is special and he should be near 100%. Will he float around in back of the line of scrimmage like he loves to picking out guys that come open exhausting the Eagles big guys. Or will that 1985 Bears like defensive line of the Eagles hunt him down like a wounded deer at the start hunting season?
    Zero clue I have on who is goiing to win this thing but it should be good. If it ended up a track meet like the 2018 Pats/Eagles Super Bowl it would not surprise me at all.
    Good luck to Fast Eddie and Mr. Courchesne. No tiie breaker necessary as we’ll have a clear winner and a pretty nifty way to end it in my view.

  296. Suitcase Jake says

    Bill O’Brien is a Solid OC , with a proven track record…. I believe Bill will be worth 3 or 4 MORE WINS for the Patsies… But with the Chiefs and Bengals and Buffalo with incredible Talent at QB and Herbert in LA they will have a super had time going far in the playoffs against these teams ….my humble opinion ….. SEE WHAT HAPPENS…..Thanks DOUG you did a GREAT job with the FOOTBALL POOLS…. now on to the RACE SEASON MOD POOLS which will really perk up those who were in the WINTER HIBERNATION …

  297. Nothing to lose for me here, and I know Eagles should win this. That being said, I just cant count Mahomes and co out. Andy Reid is one of the best at calling the right plays for given situations. While I’d feel better if Kelce wasn’t dealing with some back issues, at this point I think Mahomes high ankle sprain will have minimal impact.
    So I’m picking chiefs doug.
    Thanks for doing this. I certainly brightened up the winter doldrums for sure!

  298. NFL Playoff Contest-Super Bowl Finale Roundup says

    NFL Playoff Contest-Super Bowl Finale Roundup

    Fast Eddie……Eagles (Current 1st-24 points)
    Doug………….Eagles (Currently 6th- 4 points)
    SC………………Chiefs (Currently 2nd-18 points)
    Suitcase Jake….Eagles (Currently tied for 4th-12 points)
    csg…………..Chiefs (Currently tied for 4th-12 points)
    Bobf………. Chiefs (Currently 3rd-13 points)

    Fast Eddie cannot come in any worse then 2nd and wins it going away if the Eagles win. Mr. Courchesne skinnies into the championship with a Chiefs win so there’s high drama on that score. For Suitcase Jake it’s feast or famine vaulting into second with an Eagles win or mired second from last if it’s the Chiefs. Bobf is looking to finish in the top half of the field with a Chiefs win.

  299. NFL Playoff Contest Final Results says

    NFL Playoff Contest Final Results

    SC….25
    Fast Eddie….24
    Bobf….20
    csg…..19
    Suitcase Jake….12
    Doug……4

    After opening with only one correct pick in the opening round of the playoffs Mr. Courchesne rallies back to pull off a one point win to take down the 2022 NFL Playoff Contest championship. At the risk of speaking out of turn, a result I’m sure we all are happy to see. Fast Eddie comes in a strong second with Bobf rounding out our top three.
    Thank you all for sticking with the three contests through the entire season. It was a small group but committed and again thanks to Mr. Courchesne for not only hosting it but being a good sport and joining us through the entire process.

  300. Congrats to Shawn,they had a good “car” under him. We had a good “car” as well, but we were a little of on pit stop adjustments. He had better drive off turn 4 and won the drag race to the checker by a wheel! Thanks to you and Doug for giving us a little off-season fun!

  301. Congrats Shawn. Thanks to you for hosting and Doug for administering the contest.

    Team CSG got behind early in the event. It was all on the driver making bad decisions. The car was never quite right after the early incident, but we limped it around off the pace to get it to the finish. I would like to thank my team for never giving up on it. The driver promises better results next time assuming they will have me back.

  302. I know, I know it’s too early to talk football but for any Pat’s geeks out there any thoughts on the draft picks, prospects for 2023 and the schedule.
    Be bold, make a way too early projection on the Pat’s record in this coming season. Anyone?

  303. It’s pretty clear I’m the only football nerd around here with the Pat’s on my radar year round. Free agents, the draft, OTA’s and mini camp I take in every comment from every Pats beat writer I can. How many of you are looking forward to the first practice date of July 27th? I thought so.
    I get it, now is the time for racing yet still I have to ask. Any thoughts on the Jack Jones controversy? I know one the the bright spots I was looking forward to this year was a Patriots secondary that could be elite with Gonzales and Jack Jones at the corners. A prospect that evaporated and now the team back to making do with a kinda OK corner but one that is likely not playing to his strength like Jon Jones or Mills. Or a marginal pure corner that just isn’t good enough.
    Jack Jones what to make of that guy. Is he now a footnote in Pat’s history, a shooting star of talent then gone? Or might he survive to land a roster spot at some point in the future?

  304. Suitcase Jake says

    Don’t worry they will get Kyle Busch’s lawyer to squash it.. Does He have a licence to carry in another state ? You are allowed to put it in a checked bag properly..Not a CARRY ON Bag… WE covered this quite well with Kyle.. If he has no licence in another State it will be bad for Mr Jones… The REAL BAD NEWS is you have Josh Allen at QB in Buffalo, Aaron Rodgers in NY, Tua in Miami all 3 of these Teams are quite a bit Better than Pats… Buffalo has Won the Division Three times in a Row with NO SIGNS of being challenged … I see the Patsies finishing in 4th place this year, Maybe 3rd if Rodgers gets injured… We will see…

  305. NFL Pick for 2024,,,,Yes or No??? says

    2024 NFL season openers just around the corner. I know most aren’t rabid fans but some feedback would be appreciated. We doing an NFL weekly pick or not and if so any ideas on how it should be done if you’re in???
    I’m in so that’s 1, A total of 5 minimum would be nice.
    Thanks

  306. NFL 2024 WEEK ONE 2 MINUTE WARNING!! says

    NFL 2024 WEEK ONE 2 MINUTE WARNING!!

    For those interested in picking NFL games this season I offer the week one challenge. Pick every game. Since it’s the first week with so many unknowns it’s straight up….no points involved.

    Detroit @ Kansas City
    Carolina @ Atlanta
    Cincinnati @ Cleveland
    Jacksonville @ Indianapolis
    Tampa Bay @ Minnesota
    Tennessee @ New Orleans
    San Francisco @ Pittsburgh
    Arizona @ Washington
    Houston @ Baltimore
    Green Bay @ Chicago
    Las Vegas @ Denver
    Miami @ Los Angeles
    Los Angeles @ Seattle
    Dallas @ New York
    Buffalo @ NY Jets

    Bonus Game
    Philadelphia @ New England

    Every game worth one point except for the Eagles-Pats. If you’re brave enough to pick the Pats straight up you earn 2.5 points instead of one should they win.
    Looking to get 5 players minimum. If we don’t get that I’ll score the one week then consider these picks ran their course and are over.
    If we do get the 5 players like in the race contests there will be no cumulative scoring just the weeks big winner.

  307. Detroit
    Atlanta
    Cincinnati
    Jacksonville
    Minnesota
    New Orleans
    San Francisco
    Washington
    Baltimore
    Chicago
    Denver
    LA Chargers
    Seattle
    Giants
    Bills
    Eagles

  308. Thank you Mr. Courchesne. Super happy to see you involved. You’re the big guy and last years big playoff winner as well. Hopefully we can get at least three more players to reach the 5 player threshold and move on to week 2.

  309. NFL 2024 WEEK ONE 2 MINUTE WARNING AUDIBLE says

    I’ll publish the contest again when we get closer to the season opener. For now I’m calling an audible. The Detroit-KC game added to the 2.5 point bonus game with the Pat’s.

    One point each/straight up

    Carolina @ Atlanta
    Cincinnati @ Cleveland
    Jacksonville @ Indianapolis
    Tampa Bay @ Minnesota
    Tennessee @ New Orleans
    San Francisco @ Pittsburgh
    Arizona @ Washington
    Houston @ Baltimore
    Green Bay @ Chicago
    Las Vegas @ Denver
    Miami @ Los Angeles
    Los Angeles @ Seattle
    Dallas @ New York
    Buffalo @ NY Jets

    Bonus Game worth 2.5 points if you pick the Pat’s or Lions.

    Detroit @ Kansas City
    Philadelphia @ New England

  310. Suitcase Jake says

    FOOTBALL FOOTBALL FOOTBALL 2024 !!!! EVERYONE WAKE UP AND PICK YOUR WINNERS FOR WEEK 1
    Atlanta,Cincinnati,Jacksonville,Minnesota, New Orleans,San Francisco,Washington,Baltimore,Chicago,Las Vegas, Miami, Seattle,
    Dallas, Buffalo,Kansas City, Philadelphia

  311. Of course I’m in Doug!
    So couple of quick points first.
    I really did not think of the football picks until you mentioned it in the “unmentionable thread”.
    So maybe a little more publication might help get us to five on average.
    Secondly, I think it might help if the community football heading read 2023-2024, and thread was reset to clean up all last year’s posts like the pick six racing thread was this year.
    Sorry Mr C, we certainly appreciate this, and not trying to make more work for you….
    As for pats game, 2.5 pts.. ballsy considering first game out for all teams, I like that challenge.
    However, speaking of pats, I’m torn between 9-8 or 8-9 for season. Hmmm injuries same for all. But O line still sucks…..
    Does Bill get fired this year, if pats turn out another stinker this year for season?
    Scuttlebutt joke in these here parts (I live 20 minutes from Gillette) is kraft spent all this years cap money on all the new stadium improvements! They are impressive…..
    Does someone pick up Zappe before Bill can low ball him back for practice squad? So many questions…
    Make or break for mac this year. No excuses as O’brian changes everything.
    So Doug, can I have a couple days to think about picks? I gotta get reset big guy! Thanks to Mr C for hosting and you for doing all the tracking and posting. Btw, I am a fan of weekly tabulations. I miss them in the racing pick 6. You have spoiled us! But, Gives something to shoot for, for me to try to improve as I get my butt kicked. Compete with myself to get better, it’s personal. I may never win, but thats ok. And thats what makes it fun! So jump in, even if you know nothing about football! Honestly, you will probably do better than any experts with all their metrics! There are upsets every week for sure!
    Thx guys.

  312. BobF,
    Good suggestion on cleaning out the old and ringing in the new season. Updated Football Picks Page here.

  313. OK then good spirit…like it.
    I was just trolling for interest, take up to game time to make your picks if you like. Change anything you like up to the first kickoff.
    Are you guys seeing this. 1 QB, 2 halfbacks and 2 tight ends on the final 53 man roster. I know it’s a chess game but it’s a risky game nobody else plays.
    I’ll predict it right now. Pat’s are not ready to play a team like the Eagles and are going going to get a reality check first game in my view.

  314. Doug;
    Bill being Bill.
    Now there is no way in hell that for one second, that I think Bill and co are going to go into the first game without a legit backup qb. The only way this backfires on him is if someone picks up zappe and fouls his plans to get him on practice squad. Or, is that what his end game really is? Who knows? Maybe be he is looking to see if someone picks up carr who was outright released from LV, and see if he can get him on the cheap if no one else bites, if he isn’t already signed (I haven’t checked yet). You just never know with that guy.
    Over under sidebet:
    How many games will it take Jimmy G as new starting qb for LV to either
    A) choke
    B) get hurt and go out on IR.

    Should we move to new thread that shawn made, or stick this one out until after first game is over? Again, my apologies big guy, as you do a great job handling all things “pick”. Ty

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